Exactly, I get the concern about vaccines especially MMR, I just don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater and get rid of older vaccines that we know work and that vaccinate against the diseases the third world is riddled with.
We know the old vaccines work, but we don't really know their long-term side effects.
And the way to find out is from what RFKj said: we need herd immunity to protect unvaccinated people so more normal people choose to skip vaccination.
If it's just the crazies that don't get their kids vaccinated then any result is heavily selection biased. Ideally we would assign kids randomly to not get a particular vaccine or any vaccines, and the only way most parents would go along with that is if enough others are vaccinated that they feel their kids will be protected.
Three scientists from Merk sued the company alleging the MMR vaccine does literally nothing. The cell cultures they use to make it are so old and weak they no longer trigger any immune response. As far as I know the case has been delayed for 10 years and is still ongoing.
Then how come with all these illegals bringing measles in there's not tons of measles cases?
Measles has an insane R15 infection rate, meaning if you get it then you give it to 15 other people on average. If you look at somebody with measles then you have measles... Covid was around R2.
If the vaccine wasn't working we wouldn't be getting outbreaks of 5 people here, 10 people there - it'd be an entire school. And then every young person in the town.
And who is getting measles: "146 cases ... 79 of the confirmed cases involved individuals who had not received the measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccine, while 62 cases had unknown vaccine status." So at least 62 are illegal immigrants, probably most of the others as well. So 5 cases of vaccinated, which is sensible since some people will not develop immunity for whatever reason (injected into a vein probably).
Exactly, I get the concern about vaccines especially MMR, I just don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater and get rid of older vaccines that we know work and that vaccinate against the diseases the third world is riddled with.
We know the old vaccines work, but we don't really know their long-term side effects.
And the way to find out is from what RFKj said: we need herd immunity to protect unvaccinated people so more normal people choose to skip vaccination.
If it's just the crazies that don't get their kids vaccinated then any result is heavily selection biased. Ideally we would assign kids randomly to not get a particular vaccine or any vaccines, and the only way most parents would go along with that is if enough others are vaccinated that they feel their kids will be protected.
Three scientists from Merk sued the company alleging the MMR vaccine does literally nothing. The cell cultures they use to make it are so old and weak they no longer trigger any immune response. As far as I know the case has been delayed for 10 years and is still ongoing.
Then how come with all these illegals bringing measles in there's not tons of measles cases?
Measles has an insane R15 infection rate, meaning if you get it then you give it to 15 other people on average. If you look at somebody with measles then you have measles... Covid was around R2.
If the vaccine wasn't working we wouldn't be getting outbreaks of 5 people here, 10 people there - it'd be an entire school. And then every young person in the town.
And who is getting measles: "146 cases ... 79 of the confirmed cases involved individuals who had not received the measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccine, while 62 cases had unknown vaccine status." So at least 62 are illegal immigrants, probably most of the others as well. So 5 cases of vaccinated, which is sensible since some people will not develop immunity for whatever reason (injected into a vein probably).
"I trust Pfizer with this one but the other one is a death wish"