Kingdom Come: Deliverance II has pulled back on the censorship
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They fucked themselves doing so already, I honestly don’t see how they’re going to unfuck themselves and not see a dip in sales
They're going to have a dip in sales regardless. I assume a lot of people felt betrayed by going back on the diversity angle.
There is 0 chance that adding a gay option and black character from Mali was done for anything but diversity points.
Daniel Vavra said no one forced him not that no one asked him to do it.
My guess, someone told him he should add them and he agreed to add them as long as it was done faithful to the times.
It wasn’t though. There’s not one single iota of evidence that a Mali entered Europe even hundreds of years after this timeframe. The stretch is so bad the he used one of the most catholic fervent HRE kings to hire a Muslim “doctor” from a sultan that he was at war with in a time period where there was no single bit of evidence a black Mali doctor existed and the only scholars in Timbuktu at the time were not black.
I mean it will not be a modern take where suddenly black people are a common occurrence in Bohemia 1400. It is definitely forced and out of place and done for diversity points but I think my scenario is plausible where Vavra thought he could pull it off.
It’s not though. There’s fact he made a Muslim Mali doctor a retinue of the HRE’s King is so insanely absurd it is the direct equivalent of Asian lady at the Viking village in England for AC Valhalla. It’s entirely a modern take because it’s so not documented that they’re not evidence of ANY Mali entering Europe, let alone someone given a title by THE KING OF THE HRE. This is actually patently historically worse than Yasuke in AC shadows.
Obviously, Vavra felt he could pull it off. It was hubris to feel that way, though.
Doubt, haha
They will try to do it. A black doctor from Mali during the time where "doctors and engineers" are flooding Europe was always going to go bad with the audience but I understand he is not made up to be some common occurrence but an unique event. He will probably not be eating people or talk about the Mali slave trade.
They've also mentioned that Henry taking it up the arse will be done with consideration of the times. What that means, I have no idea.
The problem is not "Europe". It's central, "far away from any sea route" Europe, Bohemia.
Here's the question: How many doctors/engineers are in the game? Lets say 100? Was the number of black engineers/doctors above 1% back then? No? Then it's pandering, cause historically (due to how stats work) there would be 0 representation of them in the game.
Regarding Henry: He was established as straight. Pure pandering, I wouldn't mind if there were two other guys fucking in the game (cause the percentage of that was most likely way higher than the amount of blacks in Bohemia).
hey, don't be cynical. we know of at least one refugee thats definitely a doctor. an ophthalmologist, to be specific. somehow, that one got swiped by the Russians.
I bought the first one and have zero intention to buy this one. All it took was honestly just seeing a black male feminist in the setting. I didn't know and honestly don't care about the gay shit after finding out, assuming it is all actually optional.
But the first time they didn't put black people in medieval they got a ton of flack for it and came out with a solid, level-headed answer. Super straightforward considering the setting just as much as that dogshit Zau game not having white people in it's made up Wakanda setting or w/e it was.
This time they can just have 70 less dollars or whatever they intend to charge. I don't think there is anything that would get me to change my mind on that, historic realism or otherwise - but I would just simply doubt the history they based it on.
It might be totally optional like the player-sexual romances in BG3.
Andrew: "Hail Henry God be praised! I thought we'd never see you again."
"Hello friend."
Andrew: "Would you care to come my cottage to enjoy a beer or two? Old times sake eh."
"Sure. I do love a good beer."
*fade to romantic buttfucking scene* (don't worry it's skippable)
Alright so I will admit I got baited by Gale offering to teach magic and he tried to be all gay about it so I kicked him from the party...so what you are saying is totally possible as well.
Not sure about costs in this case but a dip of 10% can be catastrophic depending what the investors expect on return value. 10% can mean more then a third of all their projected profits.
Took it off my wish-list.
The current raged out retard boycott will go about as well as boycotting the latest Modern Warfare game.
Tell that to Ubisoft and assassins creed
To be fair. Ubisoft has been on decline and fucked up multiple games in a row. Ass creed shadows, starwars outlaws, skull & bones.
Valhalla was the one that started the massive collapse of stock, KCD2 is equal levels of historical absurdity as an Asian shop keep in a Viking village in Britain.
If you're retarded enough to think there's any reasonable comparison between a single minor NPC + one set of entirely optional side quest dialogue and We Wuz Assassins, presented by a company that's made like ten shitty games in a row, then there's nothing else to say.
There’s literally more historical evidence of gay black Japanese slave “samurai” than there is of a single Mali doctor, let alone one in Europe, let alone one being in the retinue of the king of the HRE.
Maybe, but think about the scale of the companies being compared. Ubisoft, as a previously ~$16 bil company, has been able to absorb a lot more failures than Warhorse Studios ever could. At the most extreme end, how much would Warhorse Studios be worth today? $80 mil USD?
It will not be at Concord or Dustborn levels but it will most likely underperform. It is all about how much it costs and what return on investment the backers expect.
Even if this cost them 10% of sales it is probably a large chunk of their expected net profit.
It did not cost them anywhere near 10% of sales. It will make an enormous amount of money.
Lets say the cost is 200 milion. The investors expect at least 300 milion back so they need to sell about 6 million copies. If they lost 10% of sales that is 30 million out of the 100 million the investors expect as return on investment.
This is why a scandal like this can ruin a company.
Because Dustborn, Da: Vielguard, Suicide Squad, and that Overwatch killer that was so insignificant I've forgotten it's name already didn't suffer AT ALL over these boycotts.
If you think really, really, really hard you may one day understand why you just posted something incredibly retarded.
Wait. You actually believe Concord was a smashing success? Suicide Squad went free to play and announced end of life in less than a year total. Dustborn never even whimpered before it died. All of these are the direct result of the same boycotts.