Redditards cheer as Ukraine assassinates CBRN general Igor Kirillov in Moscow
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War is pretty ugly. Have the Russians conducted assassinations like this? They constantly hit Ukraine with cruise missiles but I haven't heard of infiltration activities. Probably a lot harder for them than Ukraine.
There have been arson attacks within Europe and there was an alleged attempt to assassinate the ceo of Rheinmetall, though I'm sure everyone here will say that's a psyop.
Russian tends to save their assassination budget for their own guys, Prigozhin of course, the helicopter pilot who defected, those guys in the UK who they got with novochok, various generals and oligarchs. Even assassination by proxy where they leak positions to Ukrainians so they can be hit with cruise missiles, or just stationing inconvenient people onto the front lines.
In all of European history, there was no arson until RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA.
There wasn't even an attempt. There was just a US and German assertion that they foiled one. Well, I foiled an attempt on your life. You're welcome.
I'm not sure why you're repeating every piece of "intelligence" community propaganda. Do you also believe in Russiagate, WMDs in Iraq or that Russia blew up its own pipeline?
Wow, you sure know a lot about Russian perfidy. Where do you get all this secret information?
I don't agree with everything he said, but it does seem like Russia likes killing their own inconvenient people. Fact? No. But very, very strong indications. It's not secret information; they're intentionally not very subtle about it, because that's part of the message. "Shame if something were to happen to you."
The Russian state? Maybe. I don't put it beyond them, like I don't put it past the Europeans and the Americans, but this is normally asserted without any evidence whatsoever - as here. Prigozhin and the Litvinenko case seem the strongest. But every inconvenient murder or death is blamed on Putin, and people in the West of course blindly believe it.
Particularly, I'd like to see where this guy got all this information about "leak positions to Ukrainians so they can be hit with cruise missiles, or just stationing inconvenient people onto the front lines". Where he got it will say a lot about him.
The fact that a Russia Today head said, in the aftermath of Prigozhin, that she was curious as to any explanations other than "the obvious one" speaks volumes. What makes me doubt it, is why Russians would accept killing several completely innocent people, including the pilot and potentially people on the ground, to get at one or two the regime doesn't like. But maybe they do things differently over there.
None of this is secret. There are sources on both sides, and you just have to weigh the motivations and propaganda benefits of each. It's absurd that Russia would blow up their own pipeline because the cost is huge and the benefit is small, also Joe Biden in his senility basically announced ahead of time that the US was going to blow it up.
Conversely, there is goddamn video footage of Prigozhin's plane going down after a mid air explosion and he was Putin rival #1. Claiming that this is "secret information" or implying that it's propaganda or whatever the fuck your trying to do is so far beyond the pale I have trouble believing you're speaking in good faith.
But please, chant some more slogans and tell me about the history of arson in medieval europe.
Great. Can you present those 'sources on both sides'?
Ah, so you're not quite as crazy as you sounded at first.
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you wildly misread that. Even though Russian planes regularly flame out, and even though Crazy Wagner Guy isn't exactly a Putin rival, I do think that is one of the better cases - as I stated to a comment before you posted but not to you (so you may have missed it).
My problem is with the sweeping claims of things you have absolutely no way of knowing. For one, you blindly accepted US 'intelligence' claims about an alleged assassination plot that even in their telling, never even materialized. Secondly, you made some very specific claims, like generals or "leak positions to Ukrainians so they can be hit with cruise missiles, or just stationing inconvenient people onto the front lines". How could you possibly know that?
I find it odd that you would believe the arson claims, or any of the other claims for that matter, since you have shown that you can think for yourself instead of blindly believing every MSM claim.
There is nothing suspicious for you about the MSM coming out and pinning alleged arsons on BoogeyMan Du Jour? Or do you have evidence that we don't?
The ones where they use ricin pellets and polonium as poison. Scary.
They'd be stupid if they haven't.