It was never needed. Any supposed benefits are explicitly a lie and always have been, with the only exception being phimosis, an issue that doesn't present/become an issue until after puberty and therefore doesn't justify routine infant circumcision.
This isn't true. My kid sons are cut, my nephews were born in a hospital that considered it a cosmetic surgery. As babies, and toddlers my nephews had UTI's constantly while my sons had none. The original religious purpose sometimes has a common sense reason.
You may not like my experience, but my nephews probably liked being in the pain of all those UTI's even less. Every time I watched them I had to go crazy with bath times to help them.
My comment stated experienced fact, no opinion. It was heart breaking to see the discomfort, and be pretty much helpless. If me sharing my lived experience of watching my sons vs my nephews triggers you, that's a you problem.
Yeah yeah, we've all heard the "lived experiences" line before, nothing will change the fact that it's entirely anecdotal and has no hard evidence to back you up, and there is zero reason to even believe that you are telling the truth.
Oh wow, anecdotal experience. Whew lads, I guess I was wrong despite all the evidence to the contrary, better keep up with the barbaric mutilation.
Tell me, why do we not cut off clitoral hoods? It's entirely analogous to a foreskin, yet we only mutilate one half of the population. Better yet, you're arguing in the name of hygiene, the only (minor) "benefit" of routine infant mutilation. So I ask you, will you be also advocating for the removal of newborn's ears since there are so many out there that do such a poor job of hygiene when it comes to their ears? Maybe we should also lop off young women's breasts once they develop as a preventative to breast cancer?
Or is it that we should only resort to such measures as a response, and not as a preventative since it's so utterly insane that you would actually defend mutilating children?
That's not even a comment in good faith. Take your loser self somewhere else. My sons are old enough to bring me edibles. Go make your own personal experiences which happens to be the beginning of of studies get enough data.
You're right. I'm not here to treat you kindly when you're advocating that children be mutilated. You're a barbaric piece of shit who abused your sons. And you'll continue to say you did the right thing because you can't possibly accept that you did the wrong thing and were lied to.
The projecting fallacies here are so very lame.I don't care you don't like someone else experience. Collecting experience is how enough data is achieved. You are not keeping a bubble.
One day your sons will realize what was taken from them. Hopefully they will be able to find it in their hearts to forgive you for ignorantly consenting to the hospital crippling them for profit.
Many people would like to ignore that curcumcisn wasn't really talked about for some people. I personally did find it disgusting the extra care that uncut boys needed when they were little.
And were those UTI's going to cause irreparable damage? Probably not.
In all likelihood they'd more or less grow out of those as they got older. As their immune system matured, and as they figured out how to properly maintain the proper hygiene.
It was never needed. Any supposed benefits are explicitly a lie and always have been, with the only exception being phimosis, an issue that doesn't present/become an issue until after puberty and therefore doesn't justify routine infant circumcision.
This isn't true. My kid sons are cut, my nephews were born in a hospital that considered it a cosmetic surgery. As babies, and toddlers my nephews had UTI's constantly while my sons had none. The original religious purpose sometimes has a common sense reason.
You may not like my experience, but my nephews probably liked being in the pain of all those UTI's even less. Every time I watched them I had to go crazy with bath times to help them.
Surprise, surprise. The feminist comes out as pro-genital-mutilation, but only for boys.
My comment stated experienced fact, no opinion. It was heart breaking to see the discomfort, and be pretty much helpless. If me sharing my lived experience of watching my sons vs my nephews triggers you, that's a you problem.
Yeah yeah, we've all heard the "lived experiences" line before, nothing will change the fact that it's entirely anecdotal and has no hard evidence to back you up, and there is zero reason to even believe that you are telling the truth.
Oh wow, anecdotal experience. Whew lads, I guess I was wrong despite all the evidence to the contrary, better keep up with the barbaric mutilation.
Tell me, why do we not cut off clitoral hoods? It's entirely analogous to a foreskin, yet we only mutilate one half of the population. Better yet, you're arguing in the name of hygiene, the only (minor) "benefit" of routine infant mutilation. So I ask you, will you be also advocating for the removal of newborn's ears since there are so many out there that do such a poor job of hygiene when it comes to their ears? Maybe we should also lop off young women's breasts once they develop as a preventative to breast cancer?
Or is it that we should only resort to such measures as a response, and not as a preventative since it's so utterly insane that you would actually defend mutilating children?
That's not even a comment in good faith. Take your loser self somewhere else. My sons are old enough to bring me edibles. Go make your own personal experiences which happens to be the beginning of of studies get enough data.
You're right. I'm not here to treat you kindly when you're advocating that children be mutilated. You're a barbaric piece of shit who abused your sons. And you'll continue to say you did the right thing because you can't possibly accept that you did the wrong thing and were lied to.
Your nephews had poor hygiene and were seldom bathed properly, therefore children should be surgically mutilated?
The projecting fallacies here are so very lame.I don't care you don't like someone else experience. Collecting experience is how enough data is achieved. You are not keeping a bubble.
One day your sons will realize what was taken from them. Hopefully they will be able to find it in their hearts to forgive you for ignorantly consenting to the hospital crippling them for profit.
Fucking disgusting.
Many people would like to ignore that curcumcisn wasn't really talked about for some people. I personally did find it disgusting the extra care that uncut boys needed when they were little.
And were those UTI's going to cause irreparable damage? Probably not.
In all likelihood they'd more or less grow out of those as they got older. As their immune system matured, and as they figured out how to properly maintain the proper hygiene.