It just appeared in my feed recently probably because we're getting close to Christmas, it's a scene from Terry Pratchett's The Hogfather (which I highly recommend watching along with the colour of magic and going postal) starts at 1:50 and Death just highlights the importance of belief and faith for humans.
I think it's very apt as this is what the left have been doing to fantasy in the West for years, by injecting politics into franchises, shortening childhood innocence by applying gender bullshit to them and using them as props in their own campaigning, they're robbing children of being able to live with fairytale and fantasy, the little lies of life, so that we can believe the bigger lies later on like mercy, justice, duty etc.
I think this is the difference between the left and right currently, the left abandoned fantasy to always live in 'reality' but because of that there is no belief inside them. It's why they think we'd go door to door killing them since we won because why WOULD mercy exist, it isn't a thing in reality. Why would ANY authorities have a duty to serve the people, why should THEY expect justice from the other side. The right might be too believing at times but it's far more constructive than this view on life.
It's more nihilistic view on life then even I can ever match when you abandon all fantasy and explains all their current freakouts beyond just attention seeking.
I've been thinking lately that we've lost a lot of the "What if?" In favor of the "Real." People stop caring about imagination and expression in favor of "representing" reality. Or at the very least, their twisted, dull impression of reality.
YMS is a retarded furry, but there's a sarcastic line in his live action Lion King review that's stuck with me in the best way. While complaining about how dull and lifeless the live action sky is compared to the animated one, and pointing out that there are beautiful skies in real life, he quips, as the director: "Nothing in real life is beautiful, I live in Los Angeles!" People live in their dull little bubbles and decide all life must be like that. No wonder their stories are so dull and bland.
Hell you just highlighted a great point, the rush to make 'live action' adaptations over just making a new story. It's their lack of belief that is why they try to copy the fantasies of the past but without understanding the escapism within it that made it popular.
I think this might also be connected to the growing trend to shed most animation for live action, which is usually seen as higher art by critics and more meaningful by suits.
Absolutely people do, particularly westerners (and americans where cartoons are for kids). Animation is a story-telling or film-making technique.
Most live action adaptations at least have the justification of lowering the floor on the budget (a saving which may or may not be eaten up by the need for higher quality special effects) but The Lion King wasn't even live action - it was all all CGI.
Lack of belief? Do you mean imagination?
They're very linked.
How can you imagine anything when you can't believe in something greater or mysterious and unknown?
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So you're talking about religious faith? I just want to make sure I understand you.
Doesn't have to be. Real Humanism requires the same thing, it's what I'd be if I wasn't religious.
I agree with you but I'm just a bit of a nitpicker to make sure I understand people correctly. Because these people have very strong beliefs. But they are extremely static and closed off beliefs while imagination and creativity requires an open/playful mind.
They don't have strong beliefs that's sort of the point. Their beliefs are clunky and mundane, they don't stand up to comparison or to logic.
Comsmicly they're cave people beliefs, ones centered around how to divide the berries because they can dream that the stars are reachable. Base.
Indoctrination isn't the same thing as strong belief, nor is abject stupidity.
That's an amazing quote. Thanks and ty to SoctaticMethod1 for the OP
The perfect counterpoint to that quote:
"I came to the conclusion after American Graffiti that what's valuable for me is to set standards, not to show people the world the way it is." -- George Lucas
Part of it comes from utilitarianization of things, which is the continual March of technological progressivism.
The goal is to atomtize humanity and human experience into the most efficient chunks. It's what the "Creat Context" speech is about, and the basis of transhumanism is.
It's the idea that once a mechanism is explained, it must be controlled, anything less is irresponsible.
In our ignorance and our arrogance, we've decided we cracked the code on not only what storytelling IS, but what it is FOR.
And in that arrogance, we must not only REPRESENT in our stories but we must do so with PURPOSE. On a finite planet, with finite resources we MUST not pollute the cosmic conciouness with petty exapism, our path to godhood cannot abide such distractions.
I'd argue it's why the left isn't making good media lately, it's too concerned about identity, subversion, and deconstruction, than making sincere media.
Everything you watch is smirking at you, trying to make you denounce anything traditional or pleasant.
They are trying to destroy the metaphysical, but are asserting a metaphysical utopia in Leftism. It's kind of hard to deal with, to be honest.
Susan Sto Helit is the Discworld's Vivian James. I'm pretty sure Terry would have been a Gamergate co-leader, his approach to the Vilja mod for Oblivion shows that he cared for games and how people interact with them.
Indeed. I know that it might seem childish, but at this rate just trying to imagine america as a much better place or some fantasy world far removed from modern day bullshit makes me happier. It might be the doomer inside me just telling me to give up on everything, but even then it's what keeps me going in life.
And I need to repeat something important that Walt Disney said once:
(I know it's ironic given how he kind of became obsessed with the idea of making a real utopia towards the end of his life)
Pure stupidity. That's how you end up a hippie taking LSD to get "spiritual".
Two weeks ago I wouldn't have known what you were talking about. I just discovered "The Hogfather" about two weeks ago and watched it two days ago. Like everything else Terry Pratchett did, it was amazing, entertaining, insightful, and just a damn good story. When Terry died, we lost a master storyteller and a good man.
I think my major objection in this scene is to the claim that the metaphysical is "lies".
Justice, Mercy, Duty, Honor, and such things are not lies. To lie would be to willfully spread a falsity, but I am not even clear that those things are "false".
I grant that they are not materially objective, but to claim that truth is solely located within material objectivity is absurd. These are abstractions. The abstractions may yet be true.
No one would tell you that math isn't true because it is an abstract model. The only time anyone got close is when (a few years ago), Leftists started trying to claim that 2+2 could = 5 if you started bastardizing mathematical processes, procedures, and introducing different assumptions. They were attempting to subvert math because it wasn't materially objective. And they did that all in the service of a utopian ideology built entirely within their own heads as a way of "challenging expectations".