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Google declared a monopoly. Must sell Chrome. (Youtube/Gmail sales next?) (twitter.com)
posted 1 year ago by SophiesBoyfriend 1 year ago by SophiesBoyfriend +114 / -0
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– Dereliction 10 points 1 year ago +10 / -0

I think it's being understated what is actually happening here. The DOJ is forcing a partial collapse and consolidation of the Internet with this move.

For example, Mozilla/Firefox is gone in a year if Google is no longer allowed to pay them for search engine priority. Apple loses around 15% of their profitability for the same reason (around $20B/year). Many other companies depend heavily or entirely on Google paying for priority.

This will have a domino effect that, as I see it, largely benefits Microsoft as they also stop support for Win10 next year. (Note that the decision on Google and how it will be broken up comes down summer of next year.) The timing, I think, is not a coincidence.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

What costs Mozilla so much to maintain a browser product? Clearly I have no idea how this works

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– ernsithe 13 points 1 year ago +13 / -0

maintain

Hahaha. You think they spend the money on maintenance. The Mozilla Foundation funnels Google's money into far left causes while keeping up a pretense of there being a Chrome competitor. They can't collapse soon enough.

https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/what-we-fund/

Movement Complexities and Geographic Issues
We recognize that the global majority are disproportionately impacted by disparities in technological developments and power. We seek to align with existing movements using a geography-focused commitment to contextualize our grantmaking in a relevant, intersectional and impactful way.

Reframed Community Justice
Our work is framed through a commitment to community justice, which includes where and how inequality manifests globally and how different issues intersect in specific communities. This encompasses, but is not limited to, racial justice, decolonization, indigenous justice, economic justice, anti-caste movements and gender justice and recognizes the complex history of migrations, colonialism, economic colonization and systems of power.

Intersectionality
Intersectionality as a lens and method that is dynamic, evolving, internal and external facing, that recognizes different identities and realities, acknowledges the way those are interconnected, and the ways in which power impacts those interactions, or power relates to those interconnections.

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– when_we_win_remember 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

The global majority (really pluralities) to me would be 1 billion+ indians and 1 billion+ Chinese.

So offer Firefox in Chinese and Hindi. IDK. I'm not sure what other special treatment they'd need.

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– Dereliction 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

80%+ of Mozilla's revenue comes from Google's payments for search engine priority. The rest of their revenue comes from Mozilla VPN/Relay and a bit from other advertisers. They'll be dead in no time if the government's request for Google to stop these payments is granted.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

What business expenses do they even have though? Can't they just... lay off until they're profitable?

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– Dereliction 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Their major expense is software development and of course employees who further service it (tech support, etc.). In 2022, they had $220 million in software development expenses, out of $425 million total expenses. Google paid them $480 million that same year.

They could cut back, but it would irreparably damage their ability to compete and function as they are now. They would become a shadow of their current existence, if they survived that transformation. Mozilla might survive in some capacity, but Firefox likely would not.

I do believe that's part of the point. I think the powers that be (IC) want to transform and corral Internet users, and carving up Google lets them accomplish that, including an detonation of both Chrome and Firefox browsers as we know them.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Maybe if that happens we can get native GUI applications again instead of everything being some damned web app running in Electron.

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