When they tell everyone their explicit goals and our only response is to vote harder
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And if anything, it is currently following the past trajectory of being people screwed with rigged elections in US history (at least for national level offices): You screw them out of the presidency once, you try and force through the things you want but there is too much of the stink of illegitimacy to actually enforce your will across the fruited plains as states start giving the Feds the cold shoulder, and then next time around the guy you screwed comes back and clocks you in the jaw.
Just to go with two prominent examples: John Quincy Adams got a close election and conspired with Henry Clay to take the election even though most of the public will (by plurality of the vote) was with Andrew Jackson. And in what is perhaps one of the few disgraces against the otherwise fantastic Clay name (especially Cassius and Henry), Henry helped to make sure Quincy won in exchange for a cabinet position. But Adams never really got to do a whole lot because he was hamstrung by an enraged Jackson and his supporters, who then won the midterm and then Jackson came in screaming mad and won a landslide in the next election.
And for a more modern example, it is well known that Kennedy stole the 1960 election from Nixon (yet another reason I dont understand the "Kennedy was so anti-establishment, that is why the CIA killed him" types). True, he probably had the popularity he could have won again in 1964, but LBJ did a lot of the same things Kennedy was talking about doing and ruined the image of the Dems on the domestic front come 1968. And the entire time, Nixon had been biding his time, and was able to win in a landslide. Why? Well, the Democrats thought they had the entire culture on lock and planned on running even further to the Left and even openly embracing more socialist policies. Only for the "We thought we had ruined you" Nixon to disabuse them of the idea that Americans are actually on board with such ideas.
So we may well be getting "Little of A, Little of B" in the case of Trump having his second go around.
And he came in so screaming mad he abolished The Bank of The United States, purged the judiciary, and started a secession crisis.
If there was anyone who was an unmitigated hard-ass that had the political will to use political power as he saw fit without making an excuse, it was Andrew Jackson. I don't like him overall, especially for the Trail of Tears bullshit and exiling the fully Christianized Cherokee, but it was popular for the time, and banning that fucking bank protected the US for decades before the Federal Reserve was invented.
Exactly, fucking dead on.
I'm not saying Nixon wasn't Establishment, but he was more like our version of a Neo-Con Conservative. It was like Ted Cruz becoming president. Whereas Goldwater was very much our Donald Trump for that generation. Kennedy was in deep with the mob, and the mob had been in deep with the Feds since the 1920s, and during WW2 they had basically become protected status. Kennedy used the CIA to overthrow the South Vietnamese government, and expanded Special Operations in all corners of the globe. His real complaints about the CIA was that they were being utter fucking retards. The Pay Of Pigs invasion could have blown up his entire presidency, and it was entirely their fault. The military was pissed that they couldn't support the operation and start a war with Cuba but the point was that there wasn't supposed to be a war if the CIA had done their jobs. Operation Northwoods was kanked by Kennedy because bombing a hundred American cities is fuck-tarded, and he basically said so... and again: that was the military.
The Kennedy Administration had more problems with the DOD than the CIA, by a long shot.
This is why "90's Democrat" is a misnomer. Their policies in the 1970's were exactly the same policies today. Woke uber-feminism, racialism, and socialism. Nixon fucking destroyed them, but then they destroyed Nixon, and went right the fuck back to what they were doing. Then they got their asshole prolapsed even fucking harder by Ronald Reagan. Then after Reagan, they realized they had to calm their shit down, and for about 10 years they tried to replicate a kind of blue-dog-family-values-liberalism as a mask to the socialistic shit they were on about. Barrack Obama's win signaled to them that they were ready to return to their old ways, and the 70's revolutionaries were now fully entrenched in every position of power in the party.
Meanwhile, the Republican Party has been fighting between the Goldwater Conservative Republicans and the Rockefeller Liberal Republicans for 70 damn years. Trump won't be able to put the Rockefeller's down this year or the next, but I'm hoping that after the next midterm, and by 2028, these bastards are down for the count this century. Especially with how popular Trump is among 18 year olds.
Frankly, I think Trump losing the election was really a blessing in disguise. The enemy played their hand, over-played themselves, and now a whole generation of people have seen that Trump was a good choice. They inadvertently purged themselves of his ranks, something he never would have done himself.