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Joker 2: Omelette du Fromage (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
posted 1 year ago by weltallic 1 year ago by weltallic +117 / -0
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– LibertyPrimeWasRight 26 points 1 year ago +26 / -0

Harley Quinn has only had any lesbian suggestion to her character since the same hacks that ruined it in all the other ways started writing. I mean, take out her terribly executed, unnecessary, generally awful “redemption” arc(s), and the actual character is defined by her romantic and sexual obsession with a man. I think even Poison Ivy used to be less “feminist man hater” and more “pure eco nut.” Doesn’t she flirt with Batman/find him attractive in a lot of her pre-modern/woke appearances?

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– Adamrises 17 points 1 year ago +17 / -0

She had plenty of flirtatious scenes with Ivy in the same series she was introduced in. But, as you said, she also flirts with Batman a few times too in that same series. It was less a "clearly she is into this person seriously" and more of a "there is still a girl under the costume craving affection/kindness."

The problem with her is that they never actually ironed out her character, so it has never been actually solidified to prevent her from being changed so much. So a couple of flirty fanservice scenes with Ivy during a random teamup becomes "full lesbian."

They still haven't decided if she slept with her professors to get through school, was a hard working if dumb girl doing her best to escape being white trash, or an actually smart person who did it on her own and the Joker took advantage of to ruin. All of which massively change everything about where you can take her from there.

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– current_horror 12 points 1 year ago +12 / -0

Harley’s redemption arc doesn’t make any sense because her “power” is just being criminally insane. She doesn’t have any real powers that would lend themselves to overcoming other bad guys. A “redeemed” Harley Quinn is just an upstanding citizen.

It’s like how having the power of audacity empowers you to be an asshole. Fixing you doesn’t turn you into a super hero. It just means you’re not an asshole anymore.

This is why good guy Harley Quinn functions mostly like a cartoon character. Otherwise there’s no meaningful advantage in wielding a baseball bat against evil Superman.

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– Gizortnik 9 points 1 year ago +9 / -0

I'm just saying that Harley Quinn is literally a lunatic that might actually rape someone.

I think Ivy was always pretty much both. She's not a lesbian, and she does hate men, but she hates all people. She's a femme fatal that likes to manipulate men with sexuality because she wants to kill them or enslave them.

She's actually quite evil.

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– Vivs3rdSock 12 points 1 year ago +12 / -0

Ivy is also sterile which fucks her up quite a bit.

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– ernsithe 11 points 1 year ago +11 / -0

That's why I actually didn't originally hate the idea of Harley and Ivy.

Ivy's a seductress who would wouldn't think twice about using that tactic towards any human because that's her go-to. Harley's damaged, dependent and if the Joker isn't around would emotionally latch on to someone showing her superficial affection to fill that void. The dynamic actually works.

Where they fucked up is trying to portray that as some girl-power healthy relationship instead of the toxic and exploitative thing that it would be.

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– Gizortnik 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Yeah, the unfortunate truth is that someone like Ivy would probably end up physically or sexually abusing someone like Harley, just as much as the joker did. I feel like the Joker liked Harley and got something out of their relationship, even if he was an evil abuser. I don't think Ivy would have gotten anything out of her. She's, frankly, too malevolent.

On a full side note, I think one character that's only done occasionally right is Killer Croc. I like the idea that, really, he's kind of a standard, low IQ, violent criminal. Just in a Crocodile like form. Like, if he wasn't a mutant, he'd just be another violent, street-urchin, thug on the streets of Gotham. He's like a lot of criminals: he's a pissed off, emotionally unstable, resentful, violent, mess who really contributes more to his own suffering than anyone else.

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– Knife-TotingRat 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Classic Ivy would have been MUCH more into Frank (the Audrey II clone) than Harley.

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– idrago01 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

suffice to say, sjw writers have completely fucked up the batman universe

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– MassivePecorino 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

I mean, take out her terribly executed, unnecessary, generally awful “redemption” arc(s), and the actual character is defined by her romantic and sexual obsession with a man.

Reminder, this is from a kid's cartoon.

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– Michalusmichalus 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

This is why Lady Gaga was picked. She went crazy making House of Gucci. Seems like some betting going on.

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