The mother agreed to sell her child. The gays sound like bitches. The judge is a retard for saying the woman who sold her child has rights to him. Yup...fuck 'em all.
Surrogacy always results in ghoulish outcomes, but this one was especially setup for failure because she carried her own egg. Um that's the surrogacy part. As far as gays adopting children to abuse, that's also ghoulish.
Every side in this is awful for this poor kid but I do like the weakening of surrogacy as a legal means of child trafficking.
My main concern is these retards will at least attempt to do the same to sperm donors which is completely different as a psycho woman could shove a used condom into her virgina and the guy might be considered a sperm donor. I know there have been attempts to get child support from sperm donors so that might go too as a method to help an couple where the guy is infertile or has genetic issues not wanting to pass on.
I do like the weakening of surrogacy as a legal means of child trafficking.
It's great until some thot uses this to insert herself into a straight man's life and scam him for resources beyond the giant chunk of change he paid her for the surrogacy. Surrogacy was the only option a man had for having kids without giving a woman absolute power over both himself and the kid. Fuck everyone involved in this shit show.
Too many negatives and risks that surrogacy was never a viable option, you'd probably be safer raising some orphan that escaped from a commie state than risk your kid in the womb of a woman that trades life for cash.
You're best off waiting for artificial wombs if you want to fully avoid the traditional route.
I think we should get away from any thought that deviates that far from nature. Perhaps if we were more selective with our mates and raised our children properly, our future generations would be able to enjoy a traditional life where men provide, women nurture, and children obey.
I have to ask: if men use artificial wombs to grow children, who is going to care for the child while they work? A nanny that's just as deviant as the women the man uses for sexual gratification? Or perhaps they will find a virtuous woman who will help raise the child properly. But if such a woman is found, why not marry and reproduce with her?
The two men claimed that the little boy would be confused if he saw his mother because he lived with them in a 'motherless family' and was being raised within the LGBT community.
One of the previous times this sort of thing happened where 2 guys were raising a boy it turned out they were abusing him for years. Kid was even taken away for a while and both the guys and other groups protested this decision all the while claiming the abuse wasn't true.
How this should actually work. The state takes back the kid and forces the mother to raise it or adopts it to a straight white family and puts the biological mother in prison for violating moral crimes.
In theory you could have your partner become your surrogate, guaranteeing your full rights to the child no matter what.
We live in a world where prenups are thrown out because the judge just doesn't think they give enough money to the woman. Contracts don't mean anything if the state doesn't think they should, and the state has a pretty clear opinion that men are obligated to serve women, and never the other way around. I would be shocked if there was any way, regardless of how many stacks of contracts she signed, that a mother living with her biological child would actually be prevented from getting at least partial, it not full custody if she actually wanted it. Especially if she was willing to claim abuse.
Surrogacy is awful man. Obviously reproducing with a terrible woman is also awful, but we shouldn't rely upon indentured servants to have kids.
Nature dictates that a man and a woman are both required to produce a child, so it stands to reason that a child needs both to be raised properly. It's on you (and separately the female) to be extremely selective with who you reproduce with. In the western world it is very difficult to find a worthy woman, but they do exist. But you aren't going to find one in a bar, in the city, or on a hookup site.
The other issue is that if you do find one, you need to be worthy of her too. Are you a virtuous man? Do you worship God? Are you honorable and chaste? Do you defend the weak and help those in need? Also, are you healthy and thus attractive? Are you capable of providing for a family so that she can stay at home and raise your child? If you get yourself right, you'll find a good woman.
The issue with MGTOW is that as bad as women are these days (and likely for all time), men are just as bad. Proponents of MGTOW are just as misguided as the women who push feminism. We should be fighting for a world that's better for both men and women, not one at the expense of the other.
All I can say is that I have a traditional marriage and it's been great for just shy of 15 years. All of my traditional catholic friends have been married a long while and have great families. The divorce rate among traditional Catholics is 2 percent, compared to the divorce rates of everyone else. Meanwhile, most of my non catholic friends have marriages similar to what you're describing. Either they suffer from infidelity or they have a bitchy wife who dominates them.
I'm not saying it's easy, I'm just saying it's possible if you do it right. The cards are absolutely stacked against men right now and I definitely see where proponents of MGTOW are coming from. I really want to make that clear. But it is ultimately misguided. I assure you that if you follow Christ and live accordingly, you find true joy and you will win in the end regardless of what the world throws at you. And if you yearn to marry a good woman and have children, I'm confident that God will give you what you desire. If it's not in the exact way you hope for, it will be in an even better way.
I want people who think the traditional family is outdated, bigoted and even abnormal to explain to me how shit like this is not only better but also more necessary to maintain a perfectly healthy and happy society that will survive for generations.
I'm not on the kids side either. The child has bad genetics. The real side to take to a story like this is the anti-government side which is that the government shouldn't be involved in this. No one should have a "right" to be able to see a kid they gave away and the government shouldn't be involved whatsoever.
Who's side am I supposed to be on in this debacle?
Oh, right. The kid's side. Fuck the rest of them.
Right? Everyone else is kind of terrible.
The mother agreed to sell her child. The gays sound like bitches. The judge is a retard for saying the woman who sold her child has rights to him. Yup...fuck 'em all.
The poor kid, though.
Agreed, although I find the idea that it's homophobic to have a mother extra repulsive.
Surrogacy always results in ghoulish outcomes, but this one was especially setup for failure because she carried her own egg. Um that's the surrogacy part. As far as gays adopting children to abuse, that's also ghoulish.
Every side in this is awful for this poor kid but I do like the weakening of surrogacy as a legal means of child trafficking.
My main concern is these retards will at least attempt to do the same to sperm donors which is completely different as a psycho woman could shove a used condom into her virgina and the guy might be considered a sperm donor. I know there have been attempts to get child support from sperm donors so that might go too as a method to help an couple where the guy is infertile or has genetic issues not wanting to pass on.
It's great until some thot uses this to insert herself into a straight man's life and scam him for resources beyond the giant chunk of change he paid her for the surrogacy. Surrogacy was the only option a man had for having kids without giving a woman absolute power over both himself and the kid. Fuck everyone involved in this shit show.
Too many negatives and risks that surrogacy was never a viable option, you'd probably be safer raising some orphan that escaped from a commie state than risk your kid in the womb of a woman that trades life for cash.
You're best off waiting for artificial wombs if you want to fully avoid the traditional route.
I think we should get away from any thought that deviates that far from nature. Perhaps if we were more selective with our mates and raised our children properly, our future generations would be able to enjoy a traditional life where men provide, women nurture, and children obey.
I have to ask: if men use artificial wombs to grow children, who is going to care for the child while they work? A nanny that's just as deviant as the women the man uses for sexual gratification? Or perhaps they will find a virtuous woman who will help raise the child properly. But if such a woman is found, why not marry and reproduce with her?
statistically that kid is in danger
Technically correct, as 100% is still a statistic.
Sane people do not speak that way.
One of the previous times this sort of thing happened where 2 guys were raising a boy it turned out they were abusing him for years. Kid was even taken away for a while and both the guys and other groups protested this decision all the while claiming the abuse wasn't true.
Except... cue Han Solo meme.
100% the faggots are abusing the kid
This is a lose lose situation.
How this should actually work. The state takes back the kid and forces the mother to raise it or adopts it to a straight white family and puts the biological mother in prison for violating moral crimes.
We live in a world where prenups are thrown out because the judge just doesn't think they give enough money to the woman. Contracts don't mean anything if the state doesn't think they should, and the state has a pretty clear opinion that men are obligated to serve women, and never the other way around. I would be shocked if there was any way, regardless of how many stacks of contracts she signed, that a mother living with her biological child would actually be prevented from getting at least partial, it not full custody if she actually wanted it. Especially if she was willing to claim abuse.
Surrogacy is awful man. Obviously reproducing with a terrible woman is also awful, but we shouldn't rely upon indentured servants to have kids.
Nature dictates that a man and a woman are both required to produce a child, so it stands to reason that a child needs both to be raised properly. It's on you (and separately the female) to be extremely selective with who you reproduce with. In the western world it is very difficult to find a worthy woman, but they do exist. But you aren't going to find one in a bar, in the city, or on a hookup site.
The other issue is that if you do find one, you need to be worthy of her too. Are you a virtuous man? Do you worship God? Are you honorable and chaste? Do you defend the weak and help those in need? Also, are you healthy and thus attractive? Are you capable of providing for a family so that she can stay at home and raise your child? If you get yourself right, you'll find a good woman.
The issue with MGTOW is that as bad as women are these days (and likely for all time), men are just as bad. Proponents of MGTOW are just as misguided as the women who push feminism. We should be fighting for a world that's better for both men and women, not one at the expense of the other.
All I can say is that I have a traditional marriage and it's been great for just shy of 15 years. All of my traditional catholic friends have been married a long while and have great families. The divorce rate among traditional Catholics is 2 percent, compared to the divorce rates of everyone else. Meanwhile, most of my non catholic friends have marriages similar to what you're describing. Either they suffer from infidelity or they have a bitchy wife who dominates them.
I'm not saying it's easy, I'm just saying it's possible if you do it right. The cards are absolutely stacked against men right now and I definitely see where proponents of MGTOW are coming from. I really want to make that clear. But it is ultimately misguided. I assure you that if you follow Christ and live accordingly, you find true joy and you will win in the end regardless of what the world throws at you. And if you yearn to marry a good woman and have children, I'm confident that God will give you what you desire. If it's not in the exact way you hope for, it will be in an even better way.
I want people who think the traditional family is outdated, bigoted and even abnormal to explain to me how shit like this is not only better but also more necessary to maintain a perfectly healthy and happy society that will survive for generations.
DO NOT GIVE YOUR CHILDREN TO FAGS!
Homos shouldn't be allowed to raise children.
I'm not on the kids side either. The child has bad genetics. The real side to take to a story like this is the anti-government side which is that the government shouldn't be involved in this. No one should have a "right" to be able to see a kid they gave away and the government shouldn't be involved whatsoever.