On the one hand the women in the below examples are grotesquely obese. That is as you suggested a deliberate nudge of standards, towards lower body obesity that is extremely common in black women. It's a deliberately degenerated standard.
But then we have picture number 2 of the above examples. I know who a couple of those women are, namely Gellar and Lavigne. Those two are still curvy and feminine. The second picture has hips like a teenage boy.
That is also the same problem but in a different direction. Another degenerated standard of beauty, in this case something pushed by gays who tend towards predation of little boys.
Overall you're right, these things are not naturally occuring shifts in standards.
First paragraph. I didn't disagree that it's not only disgusting, but also artificial. Not at any point did I say that it is presently going the other way. It has in the past, something my friends and I called "crackhead skinny".
I'm saying that it's fully possible to have degenerated standards of beauty in other directions.
There is a happy medium.
And again to answer your question about the present situation, it's completely artificial.
This is a multifaceted problem.
On the one hand the women in the below examples are grotesquely obese. That is as you suggested a deliberate nudge of standards, towards lower body obesity that is extremely common in black women. It's a deliberately degenerated standard.
But then we have picture number 2 of the above examples. I know who a couple of those women are, namely Gellar and Lavigne. Those two are still curvy and feminine. The second picture has hips like a teenage boy.
That is also the same problem but in a different direction. Another degenerated standard of beauty, in this case something pushed by gays who tend towards predation of little boys.
Overall you're right, these things are not naturally occuring shifts in standards.
First paragraph. I didn't disagree that it's not only disgusting, but also artificial. Not at any point did I say that it is presently going the other way. It has in the past, something my friends and I called "crackhead skinny".
I'm saying that it's fully possible to have degenerated standards of beauty in other directions.
There is a happy medium.
And again to answer your question about the present situation, it's completely artificial.
Not now, but it used to be so. See f.e. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroin_chic
Heroin chic reminds me of Mugatu's Derelict homeless fashion line from Zoolander
Picture #2 is Tara Reid, the lead female in American Pie, the defining teen sex comedy of the era.
Didn't have a TV at the time, didn't recognize her. Too skinny for my tastes.
uhhhh I hate to break it to you, but that ain't even remotely close.
Not that it doesn't get worse.