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This Venezuela situation is...interesting; given the immense hypocrisy over "election denial," the right needs to not fuck this opportunity for narrative control up (twitter.com)
posted 1 year ago by misogynegro 1 year ago by misogynegro +41 / -0
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– misogynegro [S] 15 points 1 year ago +15 / -0

To be clear, I take anything tankies like her say with a barrel of salt, and I certainly don't think that Venezuela is anything more than a commie shithole, nor do I think that Maduro is anything more than a crooked greasy thug. However, it's really important not to allow the opportunity to expose just how shitty the US election system is, even by the standards of third world shitholes, to pass us by.

I also have a certain level of respect for her because she acknowledges that Trump was obviously the target of an attempted assassination by the Deep State, that characterizing Zionism as "white supremacy" is retarded, etc.

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– Kaarous 10 points 1 year ago +10 / -0

I'll believe a commie when pigs fly. I will always default to the assumption that leftists win by fraud or violence, or else incredible stupidity on the part of anyone who voted for them.

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– misogynegro [S] 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

A lot of third world commies are just nationalists who use commie branding because it's a good propaganda skinsuit. Not saying they're good or should be trusted, but it's also important to remember that appearances can be deceiving, much like how Ukrainian "Nazis" are fighting for Zelensky and Blackrock.

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– Hellsbells00 10 points 1 year ago +10 / -0

Nationalism cannot be used as a synonym for authoritarian leftism. That is not what it is.

Nationalism is a cultural element not tied to left or right wing ideologies.

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– Maskurbator 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Unfortunately few understand this. Especially the left. Because the left within each country actually hates their respective nation, so the idea of nationalism is anathema to them. Remember, at the end of the day, Democrats policies are actually designed to ruin America. It's not an accidental byproduct.

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– Hellsbells00 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

They hate the nation that isn't ruled by them. Then when they rule, they demand nationalistic sentiment to their new nation. See the CCP and Soviets as an example.

One thing you will not find is a humble leftist.

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– Maskurbator 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

I still contend they hate their nation, regardless. No one is so dumb that they make a country that shitty by mistake. It's deliberate. And they'd only deliberately fuck up their nation if they hated it.

But mind you, they hate any organized attempt at making things fun, beautiful, inspiring, etc.

Nations are just one thing they hate. But they also hate fandoms, sports, teams, clubs, novels, or anything else that people enjoy and gives them meaning which isn't them.

The idea that by simply being shat out of their mom's cunts they aren't being worshipped by every other person on earth agitates them.

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– Hellsbells00 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Did you reply to the wrong post on accident? Your reply doesn't seem to actually have a connection to the post you replied to, unless you actually think nationalism is a synonym for fascism, which it is not.

Nationalism is not tied to communism or fascism. It is an independent cultural element. A society can be nationalist regardless of left or right wing political framework.

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– Kaarous 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Perhaps, but Maduro is not one of them. He's a genuine commie.

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– Kaarous 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

One who bankrupted his nation and people trying to enact cradle to grave socialism and endless free stuff, if that's what you mean.

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– censorthisss 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

Citizen and international observers are present throughout this process.

Who are they? How are they selected? Are they sent home at midnight while a select few remain behind?

The process sounds pretty good from what she describes, but it all hinges on who actually controls the count and what can be done if an observer sees something suspicious.

Like here in the states, you'll get arrested by the FBI for submitting a report that details clear breaches of procedure.

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– LauriThorne 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

International observers invited by the incumbent government. Definitely the most objective observers around.

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– misogynegro [S] 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Western commies have no loyalty to third world commies, because all the former cares about is globohomo, while the latter are often an impediment to globohomo. By all means remain skeptical of any third world commies, you absolutely should, I'm just cautioning against assuming that they're more our enemies than neoliberal globalists.

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– Hullohoomans 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

The one thing that lends credence to this perspective is the fact that the election fraud claims are based on reports from NGOs that are run by the CIA.

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– OmegaBird 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

What happened? Some kinda coup attempt by a commie or something?

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– ailurus 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Very short, incomplete and potentially inaccurate version since things are still uncertain/developing:

Venezuela had an election. It initially looked like Maduro was going to lose, then a bunch of new Maduro votes appeared. Opposition started protesting, Maduro apparently started deploying troops to keep the peace. And now some of the military units may be siding with the protestors so things are likely going to get very ugly very fast

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– undecidedmask2 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

One instance does not make a pattern, unfortunately for us it's way more than one instance.

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