The Daily Wire gang was doing a lot of debates and discussions with Destiny and passing him off as a reasonable liberal. Destiny then did things like gloat and laugh at the Trump supporters getting shot. He also has a history of shit like that.
It was only because Destiny is a rabid Zionist that the Daily Wire gang was doing this, too. They would sooner platform someone who calls for the death of conservatives than a critic of Israel. It really showed what their priorities are.
There's plenty of anger here, but it's impotent anger. He sounds like a broken man who has lost the will to fight (but not the will to bitch about it). We have known (or at least I have known) about this gender stuff for 20 years now.
He's not wrong, but he's being a little bit too hyperbolic to really get the normies' attention.
And the real problem is the feminine imperative which is powered by emotion and feeling and has the full weight of the DNC (and most of the Federal government) behind it. It's led to:
-Kids getting mutilated at the altar of Gender for virtue signaling points
-Women and children being sold into sex slavery for virtue signaling points on the border
-Failing schools because schools are more concerned with activism and virtue signaling points than education.
-Speech needs to be censored because security is more important than liberty (feminine imperative)
It's the same rot in all areas. Gender shit is bad, but everything is bad. Bad bad bad all the way down, and it's largely because women have attached legitimate government power to their histrionic whims.
Sorry if that makes me sound like Imp, but it's maybe the core part of his thesis that's correct. I don't know what we do about it.
But these things will continue to happen wherever women's interests intersect with government power.
You're just talking about liberalism and labeling it "the feminine imperative."
Sorry if that makes me sound like Imp, but it's maybe the core part of his thesis that's correct. I
You are actively contradicting TheImp. It seems like almost no one actually reads the bullshit he says, least of all the people who talk about how right he is.
I've talked with Imp a lot and have spent a lot of time in this forum saying "Imp isn't necessarily wrong, but his tact sucks."
That was just the first time I have ever posted saying "yes it probably is women's fault." You said that it isn't feminism but it is liberalism... I say "what is the difference?"
When you have a 20, 30, or even 40 point difference in polling trends between single unmarried childless women, then that becomes the bedrock of the party.
The Democrat Party has become the party of histrionic cat ladies and academics who don't operate within a fact-based world. The liberal agenda is the feminist agenda.
I truly don't know how you reverse this trend without a collapse so spectacular that these powerful feminist voices have truly nothing to offer and start to scurry to whatever perceived "safety" they can find.
TheImp characterizes women as inherently evil schemers always plotting the moid genocide in every action they take (except for promoting Zionism for "some" reason). His view is that they are ruthless, cruel, cunning, killing machines. Yours is that they are overly emotional and whimsical. These aren't the same.
You're offloading products of liberalism onto women and are failing to interrogate the ideology.
His is a pessimistic view, mine is more optimistic.
No, your views are diametrically are opposed. I think you just project your own grievances with women onto TheImp without paying attention to what he actually says, despite your claims to the contrary.
"puberty blockers" do not PAUSE puberty. they suppress puberty from occurring. there's no picking back up where it was left off. if a kid changes their mind and decides to be normal, stopping the "puberty blockers" does not return the kid to baseline. "puberty blockers" cause permanent changes. any development that should have happened is incredibly stunted if it occurs at all. there is no full recovery.
it absolutely impacts their sexual organ development. for boys, this may mean small penis and/or testicles and erectile dysfunction. for girls, it means underdeveloped ovaries. for both sexes, they're very likely to experience permanent reduction in fertility, or even sterility.
in both boys and girls, it is a MASSIVE drop in IQ. we're talking 20+ points. and they will NEVER recover this because it's happening during formative brain development. as people are definitionally average IQ of 100, the 20+ point loss means they're legally borderline retarded.
this is why this tranny shit is such a downward spiral.
The way he swerves from bat-shiite insane to moderately reasonable makes me wonder if he's just bipolar, straight up insane or working some kind of long con.
I actually don't think it is a con at all. I see him mostly as a victim of the culture war. That shit took a toll on his psyche and we can see it laid bare.
I think he has been looking for people to trust since he started becoming persona non grata in Canadian academic and Psychological circles. This has led him to some really curious partnerships.
Daily Wire is not the place for Peterson. Peterson was at his best when he wasn't arguing from a political perspective, but now he kind of is. But they were friendly to him when not many places were.
The Tate stuff with his daughter makes less sense, especially when you are as deep in the gender game as Peterson is. Tate is nothing more than a grifter. A new age Pick Up Artist who pulls psychological sleight of hand and uses that to justify his supposed expertise.
I can't fault a layman for not understanding what Andrew Tate is doing, but Peterson should have known better.
Tate is a degenerate. Just because a degenerate may agree with a rational person on some things doesn't mean that a rational person should tolerate or promote them. I'm fairly certain his rise was astroturfed as hell.
For me Tate committed a far worse crime of being a massive normie when he started talking about GTA and trying to understand why people would find a game like that interesting. I hate modern GTA and its fanbase and even I know why it's popular, that guy is unbelievably out of touch. I haven't been keeping tabs on him or anything but at I suppose the one thing he hasn't done is the poor larp. Like most red pillers though his main crime is he's fake as fuck.
Reminder that the first book burning was at the sex clinic of Magnus Hirschfeld where some of the first "sex change" surgeries happened.
All on the goyim untermench and they all committed suicide shortly after.
I guess Peterson is throwing out the red meat to regain credibility after the Destiny debacle.
Did something happen with him and Destiny? Spoon por favor.
The Daily Wire gang was doing a lot of debates and discussions with Destiny and passing him off as a reasonable liberal. Destiny then did things like gloat and laugh at the Trump supporters getting shot. He also has a history of shit like that.
It was only because Destiny is a rabid Zionist that the Daily Wire gang was doing this, too. They would sooner platform someone who calls for the death of conservatives than a critic of Israel. It really showed what their priorities are.
Broken clocks, I guess.
I think Peterson is just broken at this point.
There's plenty of anger here, but it's impotent anger. He sounds like a broken man who has lost the will to fight (but not the will to bitch about it). We have known (or at least I have known) about this gender stuff for 20 years now.
He's not wrong, but he's being a little bit too hyperbolic to really get the normies' attention.
And the real problem is the feminine imperative which is powered by emotion and feeling and has the full weight of the DNC (and most of the Federal government) behind it. It's led to:
-Kids getting mutilated at the altar of Gender for virtue signaling points
-Women and children being sold into sex slavery for virtue signaling points on the border
-Failing schools because schools are more concerned with activism and virtue signaling points than education.
-Speech needs to be censored because security is more important than liberty (feminine imperative)
It's the same rot in all areas. Gender shit is bad, but everything is bad. Bad bad bad all the way down, and it's largely because women have attached legitimate government power to their histrionic whims.
Sorry if that makes me sound like Imp, but it's maybe the core part of his thesis that's correct. I don't know what we do about it.
But these things will continue to happen wherever women's interests intersect with government power.
You're just talking about liberalism and labeling it "the feminine imperative."
You are actively contradicting TheImp. It seems like almost no one actually reads the bullshit he says, least of all the people who talk about how right he is.
I've talked with Imp a lot and have spent a lot of time in this forum saying "Imp isn't necessarily wrong, but his tact sucks."
That was just the first time I have ever posted saying "yes it probably is women's fault." You said that it isn't feminism but it is liberalism... I say "what is the difference?"
When you have a 20, 30, or even 40 point difference in polling trends between single unmarried childless women, then that becomes the bedrock of the party.
The Democrat Party has become the party of histrionic cat ladies and academics who don't operate within a fact-based world. The liberal agenda is the feminist agenda.
I truly don't know how you reverse this trend without a collapse so spectacular that these powerful feminist voices have truly nothing to offer and start to scurry to whatever perceived "safety" they can find.
Republicans are liberals.
TheImp characterizes women as inherently evil schemers always plotting the moid genocide in every action they take (except for promoting Zionism for "some" reason). His view is that they are ruthless, cruel, cunning, killing machines. Yours is that they are overly emotional and whimsical. These aren't the same.
I think women are retarded children in adult bodies and need to be treated as such.
Imp thinks they're demons wearing peopleskin who want to eradicate men.
We are not the same.
That's true enough.
But we're saying the same thing. His is a pessimistic view, mine is more optimistic.
The purpose of a system is what it does. And what the liberal system does is dogshit.
You're offloading products of liberalism onto women and are failing to interrogate the ideology.
No, your views are diametrically are opposed. I think you just project your own grievances with women onto TheImp without paying attention to what he actually says, despite your claims to the contrary.
It just shows that women are led by consensus and high status people.
Men are weaker than ever before and women do not follow weak men.
daily reminder that
this is why this tranny shit is such a downward spiral.
So systematically mutilating children's genitals because of an ideology is worse than whatever the Nazis did?
What does Peterson mean by this?
Oy vey, where did his radical antisemitism come from?
The way he swerves from bat-shiite insane to moderately reasonable makes me wonder if he's just bipolar, straight up insane or working some kind of long con.
I suspect the latter.
I actually don't think it is a con at all. I see him mostly as a victim of the culture war. That shit took a toll on his psyche and we can see it laid bare.
I think he has been looking for people to trust since he started becoming persona non grata in Canadian academic and Psychological circles. This has led him to some really curious partnerships.
Daily Wire is not the place for Peterson. Peterson was at his best when he wasn't arguing from a political perspective, but now he kind of is. But they were friendly to him when not many places were.
The Tate stuff with his daughter makes less sense, especially when you are as deep in the gender game as Peterson is. Tate is nothing more than a grifter. A new age Pick Up Artist who pulls psychological sleight of hand and uses that to justify his supposed expertise.
I can't fault a layman for not understanding what Andrew Tate is doing, but Peterson should have known better.
Tate is a degenerate. Just because a degenerate may agree with a rational person on some things doesn't mean that a rational person should tolerate or promote them. I'm fairly certain his rise was astroturfed as hell.
For me Tate committed a far worse crime of being a massive normie when he started talking about GTA and trying to understand why people would find a game like that interesting. I hate modern GTA and its fanbase and even I know why it's popular, that guy is unbelievably out of touch. I haven't been keeping tabs on him or anything but at I suppose the one thing he hasn't done is the poor larp. Like most red pillers though his main crime is he's fake as fuck.
Maybe those German fellas from the 30s had a point then?
Worse than the masturbation machines??