That kind of tribalism is a rabbit-hole that never turns out well.
Yeah, this bullshit is straight up lies or ignorance. That kind of tribalism is the foundation of every stable, peaceful society in human history. I challenge anyone to name just one society that made no differentiation between society members and outsiders that lasted even a single generation. They don't exist because they were all conquered or wiped out by people who did.
Sure some tribal societies ended badly, but that's because everything has to end some way eventually and some inevitably won't be great, it's not inherently part of tribalism. Patriotism is tribalism on a grand scale, and the US used to practice it to a large degree. That didn't lead to the US becoming genocidal maniacs did it? No, they just quietly gave up patriotism without a single shot fired (much to the general detriment of the people now helpless to outside exploitation by people who do still practice tribal solidarity). Tribalism is a tool for better leveraging people's power and saying it's inherently evil is just as dumb as saying guns are inherently evil.
Yeah I know he might be a lost cause, s'why I replied to you.
I just wanted to expand on the proper response to "tribalism is bad m'kay" to someone who would listen and help spread the message.
That being that tribalism is to politics what guns are to self defence. It's a morally agnostic power multiplier, and if the other guy brings his you better be fucking sure you brought yours.
Tribalism as a scare word is why we're in this mess.
Fuck off cunt.
Yeah, this bullshit is straight up lies or ignorance. That kind of tribalism is the foundation of every stable, peaceful society in human history. I challenge anyone to name just one society that made no differentiation between society members and outsiders that lasted even a single generation. They don't exist because they were all conquered or wiped out by people who did.
Sure some tribal societies ended badly, but that's because everything has to end some way eventually and some inevitably won't be great, it's not inherently part of tribalism. Patriotism is tribalism on a grand scale, and the US used to practice it to a large degree. That didn't lead to the US becoming genocidal maniacs did it? No, they just quietly gave up patriotism without a single shot fired (much to the general detriment of the people now helpless to outside exploitation by people who do still practice tribal solidarity). Tribalism is a tool for better leveraging people's power and saying it's inherently evil is just as dumb as saying guns are inherently evil.
You're replying to the wrong guy mate.
I don't think he's reachable tho. Neocon piece of shit that he is.
Yeah I know he might be a lost cause, s'why I replied to you.
I just wanted to expand on the proper response to "tribalism is bad m'kay" to someone who would listen and help spread the message.
That being that tribalism is to politics what guns are to self defence. It's a morally agnostic power multiplier, and if the other guy brings his you better be fucking sure you brought yours.
No no you can't do that because racism.
The part I dont get it how you can be deep in the pit enough to end up here, but you still don't get it.
Oy vey, now the pieces are falling into place.