Wonder which politicians, if any, are going to be dreaming of goose-feather quills this time. Or, perhaps more importantly, if any are will they have half of the balls Frederick had?
Prots are either retarded or cucked. The RCC is simply cucked. Sedevacantism looks appealing in this context, but of course the only thing that really matters is whether it's true, and I have no idea.
Because the pope is the legitimate successor to st Peter, and he is the vicar of Christ. Being a bishop and denying the pope's legitimate authority publicly is a huge sin akin to denying the entirety of your faith.
Vigano is essentially rejecting Christianity and is self excommunicating. The process here is to add legitimacy so theres less chance of schism.
If vigano wants to help the church and the world then he should be fighting the evils in the world and not denying his faith.
And it cracks me up that atheists and protestants are so invested in this process when they deny the entirety of it. It's almost like you guys just can't escape the fact that God exists and this is his church. You're drawn to it whether you acknowledge it or not
I want to remind these people that backwardness is useless, and they must understand that there’s a correct evolution in the understanding of questions of faith and morals
What the Bible says:
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being.
Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.
What Francis said is the exact opposite. Christian values should never change or "evolve", because Christian values are based on the Word of God, Who is eternal and always the same. Claiming you need to evolve your morals and values because of today's society, means you're letting corruption of the world enter the Church (many warnings against that in the Bible).
Pope Francis formally approved letting Catholic priests bless same-sex couples, the Vatican announced Monday, a radical shift in policy that aimed at making the church more inclusive while maintaining its strict ban on gay marriage.
Let me know how you think this is a legitimate successor of St Peter or any other Saints. Not only it's about accepting LGBT as a valid life-style, it's also allowing them to be a part of the "church", and forcing other Christians to either tolerate this kind of stuff, or move them away from the real Church of God (lose-lose in both case).
There's no "Inclusion" to have. Jesus himself said "Many are called but few are chosen". If you actually want to save people and help them find God, the least you could do is not encourage them to stray even further away from Him, like this pope has been doing many times.
Because the pope is the legitimate successor to st Peter, and he is the vicar of Christ. Being a bishop and denying the pope's legitimate authority publicly is a huge sin akin to denying the entirety of your faith.
You are correct insofar as Catholicism, which is why Catholics are painted into a corner. I guess there's a theory that Pope Francis wasn't legitimately elected, but the process is literally a cabal of elderly men making smoke signals to the world so there is no such thing as transparency or legitimacy involved as we know it.
And it cracks me up that atheists and protestants are so invested in this process when they deny the entirety of it. It's almost like you guys just can't escape the fact that God exists and this is his church. You're drawn to it whether you acknowledge it or not
You're right, of course, but that isn't going to sway the critics here. The modern world is full of people who have convinced themselves they know better than everyone else because they have spent five minutes reading watching a video about a topic.
They know everything they need to know about the Vigano and the Pope because they've heard it from the media. Even though they know the media is biased because, apparently, highlighting media bias is meant to be the whole point of this site. Even though they routinely virtue signal about how much they hate journalists ("you don't hate journalists enough!"). They can't see that the reality they perceive is strongly shaped by all this pervasive propaganda, especially with regard to anything that threatens evil, and that only holding on to clear objective principles - such as obeying the hierarchy instituted by our King - can we fight against our enemy, who is none other than the prince of this world.
Looks like schism is back on the menu boys.
Wonder which politicians, if any, are going to be dreaming of goose-feather quills this time. Or, perhaps more importantly, if any are will they have half of the balls Frederick had?
Balls? They excommunicated him via fucking email lol. Balls aren't in the same zip code.
I meant balls for someone defending Vigano publicly. I agree the Vatican is in very short supply of them.
From reading the article it sounds like he intends to offer his defense himself.
bring back the inquisition
I'm not Catholic, but...
Don't show up.
What are they going to do, DOUBLE excommunicate you?
You have my respect, Vigano. Don't fumble it.
This happens a week after Biden tries to sniff the pope. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8qMR3i2I68
So when do the Catholics and Christians excommunicate the pope for being the spawn of Satan?
That's Vigano's whole point here. Read it and have a look.
Prots are either retarded or cucked. The RCC is simply cucked. Sedevacantism looks appealing in this context, but of course the only thing that really matters is whether it's true, and I have no idea.
Because the pope is the legitimate successor to st Peter, and he is the vicar of Christ. Being a bishop and denying the pope's legitimate authority publicly is a huge sin akin to denying the entirety of your faith.
Vigano is essentially rejecting Christianity and is self excommunicating. The process here is to add legitimacy so theres less chance of schism.
If vigano wants to help the church and the world then he should be fighting the evils in the world and not denying his faith.
And it cracks me up that atheists and protestants are so invested in this process when they deny the entirety of it. It's almost like you guys just can't escape the fact that God exists and this is his church. You're drawn to it whether you acknowledge it or not
The whole obviously being a heretic thing, and advocating satanic postmodernist bullshit, invalidates that whole "legitimate" line of reasoning.
Here's what this "pope" is saying in public: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/29/pope-francis-criticizes-us-conservatives#:~:text=The%20pope%20also%20said%3A%20%E2%80%9CI,progress%20and%20consolidate%20over%20time.
What he said:
What the Bible says:
What Francis said is the exact opposite. Christian values should never change or "evolve", because Christian values are based on the Word of God, Who is eternal and always the same. Claiming you need to evolve your morals and values because of today's society, means you're letting corruption of the world enter the Church (many warnings against that in the Bible).
https://apnews.com/article/vatican-lgbtq-pope-bfa5b71fa79055626e362936e739d1d8#:~:text=ROME%20(AP)%20%E2%80%94%20Pope%20Francis,strict%20ban%20on%20gay%20marriage.
Let me know how you think this is a legitimate successor of St Peter or any other Saints. Not only it's about accepting LGBT as a valid life-style, it's also allowing them to be a part of the "church", and forcing other Christians to either tolerate this kind of stuff, or move them away from the real Church of God (lose-lose in both case).
There's no "Inclusion" to have. Jesus himself said "Many are called but few are chosen". If you actually want to save people and help them find God, the least you could do is not encourage them to stray even further away from Him, like this pope has been doing many times.
He is.
You are correct insofar as Catholicism, which is why Catholics are painted into a corner. I guess there's a theory that Pope Francis wasn't legitimately elected, but the process is literally a cabal of elderly men making smoke signals to the world so there is no such thing as transparency or legitimacy involved as we know it.
Conflating prominence with truth is a mistake.
You're right, of course, but that isn't going to sway the critics here. The modern world is full of people who have convinced themselves they know better than everyone else because they have spent five minutes
readingwatching a video about a topic.They know everything they need to know about the Vigano and the Pope because they've heard it from the media. Even though they know the media is biased because, apparently, highlighting media bias is meant to be the whole point of this site. Even though they routinely virtue signal about how much they hate journalists ("you don't hate journalists enough!"). They can't see that the reality they perceive is strongly shaped by all this pervasive propaganda, especially with regard to anything that threatens evil, and that only holding on to clear objective principles - such as obeying the hierarchy instituted by our King - can we fight against our enemy, who is none other than the prince of this world.
''You have been excomunicated from the Church of Girldick.''
Okay.
I misread that as "Gildrick" and thought it sounded like something from Discworld.