This is also what I was warning about. The show is good enough that'll fly by most audiences (because let's be honest, it's not bad compared to Halo or Resident Evil shows), even Critikal did the same.
If you want to gain traction, you need to focus on the lore erasure part that a LOT of the Fallout youtubers focus on of the New Vegas and parts of Fallout 1 + 2. Basically just show how the NCR was more badass, the Brotherhood where better but in a weaker position West Coast due to the NCR and how Vault-Tec didn't drop the bombs because..capitalism.
Show them there's a better story which is New Vegas and that's why you're mad, talking about casting decisions will get you nowhere on this one.
Show them there's a better story which is New Vegas and that's why you're mad
"Adaptation" arguments are the most easily dismissed and will get you just a little. You might get them to say "yeah that sucks" at the best, but no actual outrage.
The MCU has already poisoned that entire well with people ready to completely mock you for caring about source material, in fact. If Drinker is anything like the other EFAP people, of which he is am alumni that owes much growth to, then they actively reject the very notion of an adaptation owing anything to what its adapting from.
This nigga never watched Eragon. Try making an adaptation that successfully ruins nearly every single possible plotline the book has setup for the sequels entirely for brevity. And still ending with the expectation of those sequels.
Also the Artemis Fowl movie never got a physical release and was deleted from streaming years ago. So there exists no actual legal copies of it. Just for your knowledge.
This isn't adaptation though, it's meant to be an entry in an existing continuity and there's nothing that it is adapting beyond the setting itself. It was even sold as sequel in a different medium
If you want to gain traction... Basically just show... Show them there's a better story... talking about casting decisions will get you nowhere on this one.
What is the goal here? I don't care if people willingly consoom waste product. If they know they know, if they don't, fuck em.
That's how we lost cultural control, by just going 'fuck em', and not saying why we don't like it and then gatekeeping the community even against the company claiming to hold cannon.
Basically talking about woke in the Fallout show is this, rather than focusing on lore. You have a lot of Fallout fans more pissed off about the lore that it should be the main priority for gatekeeping. Any woke stuff is too low down that it'll get dismissed by the general audience, so they don't even consider the lore aspect and then Bethesda panders to that more.
This is also what I was warning about. The show is good enough that'll fly by most audiences (because let's be honest, it's not bad compared to Halo or Resident Evil shows), even Critikal did the same.
When your standards are so low that it need to be literal garbage. Hmm, Does the rat care about the quality of the cheese? Or is it good as long as it gives any kicks and then can be used in the normie social conversations in order to have something safe and neutral to talk about?
The show was already discussed here, days ago. Honestly what u/SoctaticMethod1 wrote wasn't much different from what Drinker said.
This is also what I was warning about. The show is good enough that'll fly by most audiences (because let's be honest, it's not bad compared to Halo or Resident Evil shows), even Critikal did the same.
If you want to gain traction, you need to focus on the lore erasure part that a LOT of the Fallout youtubers focus on of the New Vegas and parts of Fallout 1 + 2. Basically just show how the NCR was more badass, the Brotherhood where better but in a weaker position West Coast due to the NCR and how Vault-Tec didn't drop the bombs because..capitalism.
Show them there's a better story which is New Vegas and that's why you're mad, talking about casting decisions will get you nowhere on this one.
"Adaptation" arguments are the most easily dismissed and will get you just a little. You might get them to say "yeah that sucks" at the best, but no actual outrage.
The MCU has already poisoned that entire well with people ready to completely mock you for caring about source material, in fact. If Drinker is anything like the other EFAP people, of which he is am alumni that owes much growth to, then they actively reject the very notion of an adaptation owing anything to what its adapting from.
This still isn't the WORST adaptation I've ever seen, I owe that to Disney and Artemis Foul.
I refuse to watch that film and want to erase every copy of it..
This nigga never watched Eragon. Try making an adaptation that successfully ruins nearly every single possible plotline the book has setup for the sequels entirely for brevity. And still ending with the expectation of those sequels.
Also the Artemis Fowl movie never got a physical release and was deleted from streaming years ago. So there exists no actual legal copies of it. Just for your knowledge.
Blocked & reported for bigotry
There's one scene that stuck with me from that, and it's haunted me ever since.
This isn't adaptation though, it's meant to be an entry in an existing continuity and there's nothing that it is adapting beyond the setting itself. It was even sold as sequel in a different medium
What is the goal here? I don't care if people willingly consoom waste product. If they know they know, if they don't, fuck em.
That's how we lost cultural control, by just going 'fuck em', and not saying why we don't like it and then gatekeeping the community even against the company claiming to hold cannon.
Basically talking about woke in the Fallout show is this, rather than focusing on lore. You have a lot of Fallout fans more pissed off about the lore that it should be the main priority for gatekeeping. Any woke stuff is too low down that it'll get dismissed by the general audience, so they don't even consider the lore aspect and then Bethesda panders to that more.
Idk what 5 losers here downvoted you, but you’re 100% correct. Not bullying losers who consoom garbage media is how we got here in the first place
Yeah, but you also liked the show, so I'm not sure you have room to talk here about calling shit out as the woke trash it is.
My exact words were:
And you're focusing on the woke aspects that are like one bug compared to the hive that is the lore issue.
Yeah, because the lore is for lore nerds. The woke trash part is actually the larger cultural issue.
Race mixing and mogrelization are a lore issue themselves.
When your standards are so low that it need to be literal garbage. Hmm, Does the rat care about the quality of the cheese? Or is it good as long as it gives any kicks and then can be used in the normie social conversations in order to have something safe and neutral to talk about?
its another westerners have no standards and why boycotts rarely work scenario.
It's sad that beer had more traction for a boycott than actual cultural entertainment.
Best you can hope for is the show introducing normies to the source material, much like what anime does.
We actually have people watching New Vegas like a hawk right now ever since the upcoming patches to Fallout 4 after THIS many years after release.
I really don't put it past Bethesda to not try to fuck with it in an update, it's been the eternal comparison to ALL their games.
More realistic:
Vaultec was taken over by radical islamists who nuked themselves to get to heaven.