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– Stumpy 14 points 2 years ago +14 / -0

It’s difficult to judge the Confederacy on its own because it was forcefully dismantled. Otherwise, who knows how it would have turned out?

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– ApparentlyImAHeretic 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

either way, I would maintain the right of secession is one of the pillars of freedom. the civil war turned the prospect of secession from a matter of process to a matter of war, barring a collapse of the federal government. Not to mention establishing federal income tax and extreme Federal overreach in general.

the civil war may have put the issue of slavery to bed, but I argue it is the source of everything wrong with the federal government today.

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– ElmoHassel 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

It was crippled by its atavistic clinging to the antiquated notion of Medieval chivalry and its worship of the idealized woman (matriarchy), and, of course, chattel slavery.

A victorious South would have probably set back US industrialization for a bit, but their system was immune to adaptation, being deliberately grounded in European notions of monarchy and noblesse oblige.

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– ElmoHassel 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

State sovereignty is right and proper. The central, federal government in DC, in theory at least, exists to settle disputes among competing states and acts as their representative to foreign nations and as their defense against the depredations of same. Maintaining slavery in the name of defending southern states' autonomy has forever tainted the concept of "states' rights" and Lincoln's obsession with "the union" made sure the Presidency would forever be used to work around separation of powers.

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– Kalamander85 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

name something thst lasted longer than the Confederacy

The Black Community's reverence of crime culture and dependance of the state?

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– Tourgen 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

either find a way to work together and be a USA nationalist or you will forever be divided and conquered, infiltrated, and weakened by external, malicious forces.

No, you are not free to secede from the nation, you are free to leave. Hamilton and Washington did far too much work to build the foundation of a strong, unified nation to have bitter aristocrats in debt to The City of London to sabotage it from the inside.

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