This is from late 2021 so it's hardly news, but I haven't seen anyone inside or outside the Manosphere talk about this. MGTOW was right about cohabitation, just like it was right about everything else. I don't know how much clearer this can be: These creatures are an existential threat to male wellbeing and men should act accordingly.
The issue I take with this is that avoiding women is just a short term solution and no one is discussing strategies for actually solving the problem.
"Just avoid women and die alone bro."
"Just avoid women and let civilization collapse bro."
"Just avoid women and end your family line bro."
Great. Avoid women to avoid getting fucked by the state. I get it. It's self preservation. But it does nothing to change anything, so the prescription is familial and societal suicide.
It's the easy way out. I get if you have no kids it's easier to let it all collapse. I have children I love, so mgtow'ing away into a corner, ie letting the crazies convince you to die alone and forgo your society, isn't really an option.
Mgtow is male feminism. A death sentence for the men who follow it. Women are not your enemy. Women and men need each other.
Bull. Women need men to build civilization and keep them safe, even as women refuse to acknowledge this, and most men are forced to provide this via social shaming and/or threat of violence.
Men only need women to have children. That's it. Even then, said children can be taken away at any time should the woman start uttering the magic words to invoke the state's power. 'He hit me', 'He abused the kids', 'He's a deadbeat dad', and society will automatically defer to her judgement, explicitly because she's a woman.
Look, I get it. In a perfect world, there would be give and take, back and forth - a reciprocal arrangement where both men and women benefit from getting together, getting married, and having children. We do not have that. Not by default - a man nowadays has to vet women to such an extreme that it's insane, and all that vetting can be ruined in an instance should the women go off on a temper tantrum.
I'm not going to blame a man in the slightest if he looks at all of that and promptly GTFOs. You talk about forgoing society? Then give men a society they want to be apart of.
No one's going to give you anything. Demanding the moon and declaring that if you don't get it you're going to pout and refuse to do anything, is basically female behavior.
You quitting means you don't get an opinion anymore.
This is from late 2021 so it's hardly news, but I haven't seen anyone inside or outside the Manosphere talk about this. MGTOW was right about cohabitation, just like it was right about everything else. I don't know how much clearer this can be: These creatures are an existential threat to male wellbeing and men should act accordingly.
The issue I take with this is that avoiding women is just a short term solution and no one is discussing strategies for actually solving the problem.
"Just avoid women and die alone bro."
"Just avoid women and let civilization collapse bro."
"Just avoid women and end your family line bro."
Great. Avoid women to avoid getting fucked by the state. I get it. It's self preservation. But it does nothing to change anything, so the prescription is familial and societal suicide.
It's the easy way out. I get if you have no kids it's easier to let it all collapse. I have children I love, so mgtow'ing away into a corner, ie letting the crazies convince you to die alone and forgo your society, isn't really an option.
Mgtow is male feminism. A death sentence for the men who follow it. Women are not your enemy. Women and men need each other.
Bull. Women need men to build civilization and keep them safe, even as women refuse to acknowledge this, and most men are forced to provide this via social shaming and/or threat of violence.
Men only need women to have children. That's it. Even then, said children can be taken away at any time should the woman start uttering the magic words to invoke the state's power. 'He hit me', 'He abused the kids', 'He's a deadbeat dad', and society will automatically defer to her judgement, explicitly because she's a woman.
Look, I get it. In a perfect world, there would be give and take, back and forth - a reciprocal arrangement where both men and women benefit from getting together, getting married, and having children. We do not have that. Not by default - a man nowadays has to vet women to such an extreme that it's insane, and all that vetting can be ruined in an instance should the women go off on a temper tantrum.
I'm not going to blame a man in the slightest if he looks at all of that and promptly GTFOs. You talk about forgoing society? Then give men a society they want to be apart of.
No one's going to give you anything. Demanding the moon and declaring that if you don't get it you're going to pout and refuse to do anything, is basically female behavior.
You quitting means you don't get an opinion anymore.