Yeah UK is fucked unless, and this is an EXTREME unless, the normies have enough too and mass vote in regional parties only, ignoring the national parties like Conservatives, Labour, Lib Dems etc
It'd be enough to fuck up the system because everyone there is used to being one of two parties in charge but the only hope is if enough of the smaller parties are fans if Argentina's current president and gut the civil service, THEN the UK has a shot at recovery.
We are fucked in the UK. Even Reform, who decent academics like Matthew Goodwin now praise, are looking realistically at a “two-election plan.”
Unfortunately, that means Labour; insane levels of immigration, rascism towards native Brits, even more woke institutions, Muslim dominance rising, terrorism, rape, and the very real possibility of the immigrant vote being so high (like the USA Biden plan) that legal recovery is simply impossible.
I feel like even then, you would have the issue of regionalism in bureaucracy... Like, even if they did that, the current system means that all of the constituent parts of the UK apart from England would still maintain their parliaments, public service, etc.
And you've presumably heard of how dysfunctional Stormont (Norn Iron) and Holyrood (Scotland) already are..? I don't know enough about Wales, but I think it may be similar, too (politics there is even fucking weirder, in my understanding)...
With Norn there's almost no chance of overcoming the sectarianism there enough to get one of the not-explicitly-sectarian parties over the line (also power sharing, which is a nightmare), and with Scotland... There's not really much of an "opposition" to the SNP apart from Labour (they hate the Conservatives up there, with a passion)...
There's also the fact that "the North" only really voted Con because the Cons promised to deliver on Brexit, and then utterly, utterly failed to do anything of substance beyond that. There is almost zero chance of the North not voting Labour again this time around, and that's a huge chunk of the population right there...
So while I like your idea, I'd go so far as to say that it's more than just extreme - it's almost functionally impossible, sadly.
But also yes. That would be the only hope. But I just don't see it happening, like, at all...
That's why I said extreme, I got more chance of finding a genie than the normies of the UK trying to actively unfuck themselves by not voting for any of the main parties at least.
If I do find a genie and get 3 wishes, I'm going to see if wish to always have two wishes as I need more than 3 to unfuck the world properly.
That was Reform’s stance before they (under advisement) stopped being “We want to destroy the Tories” and started being “We ARE the alternative to Labour.”
The Tories need to die. The only difference between them and Sharia Labour is a matter of degrees; the staggering entitlement and arrogance they display (even the favoured ones, like Jacob Rees-Mogg fall prey to this) ensures you can count on them to never get it.
If the Conservatives somehow manage to win the next election, I will attempt to eat a hat (apparently people have tried before, though I'm not sure I even own a leather hat).
There's historical precedent, of course (mostly from the 90s, in the UK and Australia), but it seems... Almost failingly unlikely.
I expect, and hope, much like you do, that they get absolutely obliterated...
I fucking hate Starmer (slimy fuck), but at least he doesn't pretend to be the exact opposite of what he really is, is actually able to string a speech together (or, ya know, read from the teleprompter) and not look like a fucking clone, and, finally, doesn't have an inherited net worth higher than the GDP of several countries, like fucking Sunak and wife (definition of "Brahmin nepo babies", if ever I saw one).
Sunak makes my skin crawl. Somehow even more than Starmer does...
at least he doesn't pretend to be the exact opposite of what he really is
I can only presume you know little about Beer Starmer.
The reason he loathes Boris Johnson so much is because they are the same; both weak men, with no vision, no moral compass, no courage and no convictions. They both desperately appease different sides of arguments- Johnson’s “We’ll deliver Brexit! Lol jk, I’m gonna increase legal immigration through the roof” isn’t as well known as, say, Starmers interminable flip flopping on ANY issue depending who he’s addressing.
Starmer is liar, a dishonest, corrupt little cunt, and woe betide the day he gets into power.
I fear that’s rather like “I hope I set myself on fire on the kitchen, because then my wife will stop nagging ME to cook.”
I think Labour in power is incredibly dangerous. It’s not a game; we’ve had Bliar open those floodgates in ‘97, yet that was nothing compared to the hordes currently arriving both legally and illegally.
Starmer has shown he is fully on board with “Yeah women can have a penis,” he’s shown he’s fully able to be pressured by the Islamists to call for “ceasefire” (ie, Israeli surrender), he’s shown repeatedly that the country is fucked under him.
And you know something? On Twitter they’re already calling it; after Labour get in, there will be a coup, and Starmer will be replaced by Sad IQ Khan or an equally vile Muslim. And then we all know what comes next.
Yeah, I’m English. I live in a south east city you could easily call “woke central.”
However, I do disagree with you about the “average Brit;” have you heard of Matthew Goodwin? A thoroughly sound academic who used to be a leftie then basically snapped out of it. He’s a HUGE promoter of British culture and less immigration, and his polling indicates around 80% of the country are what you and I would call “normal.”
Most Brits KNOW what Muslims and certain immigrant cultures are like. But they’ve let themselves feel isolated, like they’re out of touch- they don’t realise it really is the vast majority are still, for want of a better term, sane.
Stuff like Lee Anderson getting suspended is all to the good; more and more people realise “Hey, this guy thinks like me and he’s been punished. Something is WRONG HERE.”
Yeah UK is fucked unless, and this is an EXTREME unless, the normies have enough too and mass vote in regional parties only, ignoring the national parties like Conservatives, Labour, Lib Dems etc
It'd be enough to fuck up the system because everyone there is used to being one of two parties in charge but the only hope is if enough of the smaller parties are fans if Argentina's current president and gut the civil service, THEN the UK has a shot at recovery.
We are fucked in the UK. Even Reform, who decent academics like Matthew Goodwin now praise, are looking realistically at a “two-election plan.”
Unfortunately, that means Labour; insane levels of immigration, rascism towards native Brits, even more woke institutions, Muslim dominance rising, terrorism, rape, and the very real possibility of the immigrant vote being so high (like the USA Biden plan) that legal recovery is simply impossible.
I feel like even then, you would have the issue of regionalism in bureaucracy... Like, even if they did that, the current system means that all of the constituent parts of the UK apart from England would still maintain their parliaments, public service, etc.
And you've presumably heard of how dysfunctional Stormont (Norn Iron) and Holyrood (Scotland) already are..? I don't know enough about Wales, but I think it may be similar, too (politics there is even fucking weirder, in my understanding)...
With Norn there's almost no chance of overcoming the sectarianism there enough to get one of the not-explicitly-sectarian parties over the line (also power sharing, which is a nightmare), and with Scotland... There's not really much of an "opposition" to the SNP apart from Labour (they hate the Conservatives up there, with a passion)...
There's also the fact that "the North" only really voted Con because the Cons promised to deliver on Brexit, and then utterly, utterly failed to do anything of substance beyond that. There is almost zero chance of the North not voting Labour again this time around, and that's a huge chunk of the population right there...
So while I like your idea, I'd go so far as to say that it's more than just extreme - it's almost functionally impossible, sadly.
But also yes. That would be the only hope. But I just don't see it happening, like, at all...
That's why I said extreme, I got more chance of finding a genie than the normies of the UK trying to actively unfuck themselves by not voting for any of the main parties at least.
If I do find a genie and get 3 wishes, I'm going to see if wish to always have two wishes as I need more than 3 to unfuck the world properly.
That was Reform’s stance before they (under advisement) stopped being “We want to destroy the Tories” and started being “We ARE the alternative to Labour.”
The Tories need to die. The only difference between them and Sharia Labour is a matter of degrees; the staggering entitlement and arrogance they display (even the favoured ones, like Jacob Rees-Mogg fall prey to this) ensures you can count on them to never get it.
If the Conservatives somehow manage to win the next election, I will attempt to eat a hat (apparently people have tried before, though I'm not sure I even own a leather hat).
There's historical precedent, of course (mostly from the 90s, in the UK and Australia), but it seems... Almost failingly unlikely.
I expect, and hope, much like you do, that they get absolutely obliterated...
I fucking hate Starmer (slimy fuck), but at least he doesn't pretend to be the exact opposite of what he really is, is actually able to string a speech together (or, ya know, read from the teleprompter) and not look like a fucking clone, and, finally, doesn't have an inherited net worth higher than the GDP of several countries, like fucking Sunak and wife (definition of "Brahmin nepo babies", if ever I saw one).
Sunak makes my skin crawl. Somehow even more than Starmer does...
I can only presume you know little about Beer Starmer.
The reason he loathes Boris Johnson so much is because they are the same; both weak men, with no vision, no moral compass, no courage and no convictions. They both desperately appease different sides of arguments- Johnson’s “We’ll deliver Brexit! Lol jk, I’m gonna increase legal immigration through the roof” isn’t as well known as, say, Starmers interminable flip flopping on ANY issue depending who he’s addressing.
Starmer is liar, a dishonest, corrupt little cunt, and woe betide the day he gets into power.
I fear that’s rather like “I hope I set myself on fire on the kitchen, because then my wife will stop nagging ME to cook.”
I think Labour in power is incredibly dangerous. It’s not a game; we’ve had Bliar open those floodgates in ‘97, yet that was nothing compared to the hordes currently arriving both legally and illegally.
Starmer has shown he is fully on board with “Yeah women can have a penis,” he’s shown he’s fully able to be pressured by the Islamists to call for “ceasefire” (ie, Israeli surrender), he’s shown repeatedly that the country is fucked under him.
And you know something? On Twitter they’re already calling it; after Labour get in, there will be a coup, and Starmer will be replaced by Sad IQ Khan or an equally vile Muslim. And then we all know what comes next.
Yeah, I’m English. I live in a south east city you could easily call “woke central.”
However, I do disagree with you about the “average Brit;” have you heard of Matthew Goodwin? A thoroughly sound academic who used to be a leftie then basically snapped out of it. He’s a HUGE promoter of British culture and less immigration, and his polling indicates around 80% of the country are what you and I would call “normal.”
Most Brits KNOW what Muslims and certain immigrant cultures are like. But they’ve let themselves feel isolated, like they’re out of touch- they don’t realise it really is the vast majority are still, for want of a better term, sane.
Stuff like Lee Anderson getting suspended is all to the good; more and more people realise “Hey, this guy thinks like me and he’s been punished. Something is WRONG HERE.”
There is no political solution, even talk about political solution is illegal.
Penny Mordaunt? She looks like a British Thwomp. Are people that hard up for women over there?
how about an englishman?