Women really don't understand how much rejection hurts a guy
That really is a you-problem (talking to that hypothetical guy). You think women should reject no one because men get sad if they are rejected? Maybe he should get accustomed to being rejected, and his life will improve markedly.
as if they know everything and pretend that incels are just entitled guys.
If we mean 'incel' to say guy who can't get laid, no. If we mean it to refer to the 'incel' movement, the people who post on boards and call themselves 'loveshy', they most certainly do have a large number of creeps and insane people among them - who say that women deserve to be raped because they reject 'nice guys' like himself.
By the way, looking at her history she mentions in the thread she got cruelly rejected in her college years, so she probably has been doing this as a form of revenge over it against men in general.
Or maybe she isn't a sociopath. Big assumption, I know, we're talking about a Redditor after all.
I genuinely thought I was being clear in my first post but apparently not enough for you but if this isn't you trying to simp for horrible women.
Women really don't understand how much rejection hurts a guy
It's fascinating how this simple line immediately makes people jump completely to the worse possible conclusions I know people online can be retarded but it's weird how the mentality makes it's way to the far corners of the internet. Don't know why if you're a guy you'd ever simp for this mentality either, it's not going to make women like you.
Maybe, shocker, men are not somebody's personal emotional punching bag and they should just be left alone when they get rejected and respect their decision to remove themselves from a conversation. Instead of trying to come up with the most abusive ways possible to ritually humiliate a guy and then getting mad when he doesn't play along. This guy did nothing wrong, he exited after being rejected and still that wasn't enough for her.
This is a classic case of how guys are completely fucked no matter what they do when they're dealing with a western woman. Can't ignore them because that's misogynistic and they're being creepy loners. Can't interact with them because they're not worthy enough to even talk to them in the first place and god forbid you be alone in a room with them or look at them because that's a false accusation and your life ruined.
Which goes to my question of, why the fuck would you try taking this woman's side other than to be a contrarian out of boredom?
This isn't whining, this is just the reality of what single men have to deal with every day if they even dare to interact with women. I always defer to the gymbros because I know especially if you're an older guy you'll immediately find ways to dismiss the points being made as you are now. If even the gymbros are going "Fuck no" and keeping away from women because they don't want to get accused of anything, you know things have gotten really bad between the genders.
I'm betting your an older guy, no one under the age of 40 would ever make comments like yours these days. If you're lucky enough to be in a long term relationship that goes double.
I genuinely thought I was being clear in my first post but apparently not enough for you but if this isn't you trying to simp for horrible women.
Why would I be interested in 'simping' for anyone, let alone a Redditor?
Don't know why if you're a guy you'd ever simp for this mentality either
See, you think that I'm jumping to conclusions, and you might be right, but now you are doing it yourself - by assuming that I am 'simping' for any mentality, rather than informing you that by allowing rejection to hurt you this much, you are doing a number on yourself.
There is no law of nature that rejection should hurt you as much that it does, if it does. And when it doesn't, your life will improve.
This guy did nothing wrong, he exited after being rejected and still that wasn't enough for her.
If replying to a rejection is 'ritual humiliation', does that mean that she is ritually humiliating herself by replying to rejections herself?
Can't interact with them because they're not worthy enough to even talk to them in the first place and god forbid you be alone in a room with them or look at them because that's a false accusation and your life ruined.
I think you're exaggerating just a little bit. And this may not help either.
Which goes to my question of, why the fuck would you try taking this woman's side other than to be a contrarian out of boredom?
That too, but also because I think she said not much wrong. Note that I'm not 'taking her side' in saying that men who are rejected should reply to the woman, I'm indifferent to that. People in general like to freak out about nothing, and you are no different.
I will say that I did not read the Reddit thread, perhaps they made better arguments for their criticisms of the woman than the people here.
a large number of creeps and insane people among them - who say that women deserve to be raped because they reject 'nice guys' like himself.
I had a friend freshman year of college who couldn't look a girl in the face, not even fat or ugly ones, and he could only barely speak to them. I assumed he was abused at home or something because he wasn't ugly or fat but he was constantly talking about how fucked over "nice guys" are etc etc.
Anyway one time he said something along the lines of, "fuck that bitch, I wanted to smash her face and break her fucking nose". I didn't skip a beat, I said, "you couldn't do that, you'd have to look her in the face first." He laughed, like, violently and for way too long, it was so fucking weird. He was such a weird dude, very Holden Caulfield-esque.
He was super self-deprecating. He was just this "nice guy" in his own mind but in reality he clearly had some mental issues he desperately needed to work through. Wasn't even particularly a nice person. 100% who I think of when I hear or read "nice guy"
That really is a you-problem (talking to that hypothetical guy). You think women should reject no one because men get sad if they are rejected? Maybe he should get accustomed to being rejected, and his life will improve markedly.
If we mean 'incel' to say guy who can't get laid, no. If we mean it to refer to the 'incel' movement, the people who post on boards and call themselves 'loveshy', they most certainly do have a large number of creeps and insane people among them - who say that women deserve to be raped because they reject 'nice guys' like himself.
Or maybe she isn't a sociopath. Big assumption, I know, we're talking about a Redditor after all.
No Cathy Newman I don't think that.
lol holy fuck you're almost as bad as she is, maybe you should ask her out.
Then what was your point exactly?
Almost as bad? No, I'm 'worse'.
Perhaps one day you'll realize that non-stop whining doesn't get you anywhere in life.
I genuinely thought I was being clear in my first post but apparently not enough for you but if this isn't you trying to simp for horrible women.
It's fascinating how this simple line immediately makes people jump completely to the worse possible conclusions I know people online can be retarded but it's weird how the mentality makes it's way to the far corners of the internet. Don't know why if you're a guy you'd ever simp for this mentality either, it's not going to make women like you.
Maybe, shocker, men are not somebody's personal emotional punching bag and they should just be left alone when they get rejected and respect their decision to remove themselves from a conversation. Instead of trying to come up with the most abusive ways possible to ritually humiliate a guy and then getting mad when he doesn't play along. This guy did nothing wrong, he exited after being rejected and still that wasn't enough for her.
This is a classic case of how guys are completely fucked no matter what they do when they're dealing with a western woman. Can't ignore them because that's misogynistic and they're being creepy loners. Can't interact with them because they're not worthy enough to even talk to them in the first place and god forbid you be alone in a room with them or look at them because that's a false accusation and your life ruined.
Which goes to my question of, why the fuck would you try taking this woman's side other than to be a contrarian out of boredom?
This isn't whining, this is just the reality of what single men have to deal with every day if they even dare to interact with women. I always defer to the gymbros because I know especially if you're an older guy you'll immediately find ways to dismiss the points being made as you are now. If even the gymbros are going "Fuck no" and keeping away from women because they don't want to get accused of anything, you know things have gotten really bad between the genders.
I'm betting your an older guy, no one under the age of 40 would ever make comments like yours these days. If you're lucky enough to be in a long term relationship that goes double.
Why would I be interested in 'simping' for anyone, let alone a Redditor?
See, you think that I'm jumping to conclusions, and you might be right, but now you are doing it yourself - by assuming that I am 'simping' for any mentality, rather than informing you that by allowing rejection to hurt you this much, you are doing a number on yourself.
There is no law of nature that rejection should hurt you as much that it does, if it does. And when it doesn't, your life will improve.
If replying to a rejection is 'ritual humiliation', does that mean that she is ritually humiliating herself by replying to rejections herself?
I think you're exaggerating just a little bit. And this may not help either.
That too, but also because I think she said not much wrong. Note that I'm not 'taking her side' in saying that men who are rejected should reply to the woman, I'm indifferent to that. People in general like to freak out about nothing, and you are no different.
I will say that I did not read the Reddit thread, perhaps they made better arguments for their criticisms of the woman than the people here.
This is especially bad, even for you. You have to go so far out of your way to interpret what he said to reach that conclusion.
Hope she sees this bro
I had a friend freshman year of college who couldn't look a girl in the face, not even fat or ugly ones, and he could only barely speak to them. I assumed he was abused at home or something because he wasn't ugly or fat but he was constantly talking about how fucked over "nice guys" are etc etc.
Anyway one time he said something along the lines of, "fuck that bitch, I wanted to smash her face and break her fucking nose". I didn't skip a beat, I said, "you couldn't do that, you'd have to look her in the face first." He laughed, like, violently and for way too long, it was so fucking weird. He was such a weird dude, very Holden Caulfield-esque.
At least he had a good attitude about that burn.
He was super self-deprecating. He was just this "nice guy" in his own mind but in reality he clearly had some mental issues he desperately needed to work through. Wasn't even particularly a nice person. 100% who I think of when I hear or read "nice guy"
Pretty sure he means women don't realise getting rejected even as a guy hurts