the decline is a necessary consequence of increasing educational attainment
College used to be for middle class and above. If you let dumb people into college and lower the standards so they don't fail, of course the average IQ of college students will drop.
It’s the lowest common denominator factor. This is why “college” has become a printing press of degrees that range from “basically a ged” to “actually requires talent so we have to force DEI initiatives”.
Yeah. Them getting rid of looking at the SATs for admissions isn’t going to help, either. The test is a lot of things but it does correlate very well with people that do well in school in real degree programs.
I got into an argument with one guy about that. He said it’s a stupid test because they don’t teach it in school and it doesn’t mean anything. I told him it’s a test about reading, writing, and math, and asked him what they taught in schools. He said he used to sub and they didn’t teach any of that. I asked him what they did teach and he got flustered and said nothing.
It's very much the ultimate midwit observation of what's been right in front of us the whole time. When it came to my own decisions about university I could have re-taken my GSCEs and gone for a top-tier university degree if I really wanted to.
The second though I was witnessing GG and saw how many university students were allowed to have actual sperg sessions and be complete retards in the msot public manner possible I knew it wasn't for me. I hated school with a passion and I still do and I wouldn't last five seconds in a university environment to begin with. I'm so much better learning from tutors or doing self-taught courses and the like. That's something that anybody younger than me should definitely consider or going on a proper tradesmen courses where they treat you like an adult.
We traced the origin of this belief to obsolete intelligence data collected in 1940s and 1950s when university education was the privilege of a few.
What is really interesting about this article is how it pinpoints a likely source of where this misinformation about university being for intelligent people came from. You have a lot of university graduates believing this because they've got over-inflated egos but what isn't talked a lot about is how even leftist boomers are often very traditional in this belief about university. If you don't get a degree you're a dumb dumb or at least you simply aren't as 'employable'.
It's almost like a class warfare attitude and you see this reflected in how women refuse to even look at a guy who doesn't have a university degree. Doesn't matter if he has IQ to qualify for MENSA or anything like that and understands things they can't even comprehend. No, if you're a man without a degree you may as well be an illiterate peasant.
We have a very significant chunk of population when it comes to university who don't understand how wealth and job creation actually works and think that a piece of paper magicks it all into existence.
This is the kind of ignorance about the real world that actually scares the fuck out of me and what has me running for the hills. I know the mentality exists because I live with these people so you can imagine how much fun that is and why I'd rather go to a mountainous region and live in the middle of nowhere than deal with any of these arseholes.
We have a very significant chunk of population when it comes to university who don't understand how wealth and job creation actually works and think that a piece of paper magicks it all into existence.
As a former college professor, I can say that this is true. College has become four years of daycare/extended adolescence with a quarter-million dollar cover charge. Even some of the best schools are turning into diploma mills. An alarming number of students go through thinking that if they just take the right classes, they'll get a magical piece of paper that will give them a comfy six-figure laptop-class job, despite the fact that they have acquired no useful skills in the process.
Colleges have become hedge funds that can hide inside of the school to use their tax exempt status.
Yeah, this is something I found absolutely amazing when discovering what utter emotionless psychopaths a lot of western women are when it comes to picking their partners and it was on the degree/profession front.
They want something recognisable that they can explain to their friends and show the man off as a status symbol. Something like a doctor, professor, engineer and that's all that matters as long as it's as you point out, high status. This is something I've ranted about in the past but it's really noticeable depending on what circles you run in this kind of attitude is pretty prevailent and it's usually down to class.
Nah, doesn't matter to these people if you end up a billionaire with property on top of that and know how central banks work as well as multiple programming languages etc. none of that impresses these people and it never will.
It began after WWII with the well-intended GI Bill of Rights, which in part granted tuition and housing $ to veterans, "democratizing" higher ed, but not yet compromising admissions criteria.
Around 1980, higher ed changed from the monastic to the "corporate" model--colleges catering to students as if they are consuming an education like any other commodity by constructing posh student activities facilities and housing, providing the consumer advocate service of "evaluating instructor effectiveness," and, of course, lowering admissions standards to allow entry of dumbasses who've been told all their lives that only losers don't attend college.
All this is on top of the affirmative action fiasco that lowered standards even further in pursuit of "Diversity, Inclusion, and Equity."
so was the internet, by the way (same for other network that predated the popularity of the internet, such as Usenet).
the built-in barrier of entry was that you needed a semi-functioning brain, a certain amount of inherent geekiness, and did not require instant gratification.
College used to be for middle class and above. If you let dumb people into college and lower the standards so they don't fail, of course the average IQ of college students will drop.
It’s the lowest common denominator factor. This is why “college” has become a printing press of degrees that range from “basically a ged” to “actually requires talent so we have to force DEI initiatives”.
Yeah. Them getting rid of looking at the SATs for admissions isn’t going to help, either. The test is a lot of things but it does correlate very well with people that do well in school in real degree programs.
I got into an argument with one guy about that. He said it’s a stupid test because they don’t teach it in school and it doesn’t mean anything. I told him it’s a test about reading, writing, and math, and asked him what they taught in schools. He said he used to sub and they didn’t teach any of that. I asked him what they did teach and he got flustered and said nothing.
It's very much the ultimate midwit observation of what's been right in front of us the whole time. When it came to my own decisions about university I could have re-taken my GSCEs and gone for a top-tier university degree if I really wanted to.
The second though I was witnessing GG and saw how many university students were allowed to have actual sperg sessions and be complete retards in the msot public manner possible I knew it wasn't for me. I hated school with a passion and I still do and I wouldn't last five seconds in a university environment to begin with. I'm so much better learning from tutors or doing self-taught courses and the like. That's something that anybody younger than me should definitely consider or going on a proper tradesmen courses where they treat you like an adult.
What is really interesting about this article is how it pinpoints a likely source of where this misinformation about university being for intelligent people came from. You have a lot of university graduates believing this because they've got over-inflated egos but what isn't talked a lot about is how even leftist boomers are often very traditional in this belief about university. If you don't get a degree you're a dumb dumb or at least you simply aren't as 'employable'.
It's almost like a class warfare attitude and you see this reflected in how women refuse to even look at a guy who doesn't have a university degree. Doesn't matter if he has IQ to qualify for MENSA or anything like that and understands things they can't even comprehend. No, if you're a man without a degree you may as well be an illiterate peasant.
We have a very significant chunk of population when it comes to university who don't understand how wealth and job creation actually works and think that a piece of paper magicks it all into existence.
This is the kind of ignorance about the real world that actually scares the fuck out of me and what has me running for the hills. I know the mentality exists because I live with these people so you can imagine how much fun that is and why I'd rather go to a mountainous region and live in the middle of nowhere than deal with any of these arseholes.
As a former college professor, I can say that this is true. College has become four years of daycare/extended adolescence with a quarter-million dollar cover charge. Even some of the best schools are turning into diploma mills. An alarming number of students go through thinking that if they just take the right classes, they'll get a magical piece of paper that will give them a comfy six-figure laptop-class job, despite the fact that they have acquired no useful skills in the process.
Colleges have become hedge funds that can hide inside of the school to use their tax exempt status.
This has nothing to do with intelligence and everything to do with social status.
A degree is an official stamp of approval and women characteristically outsource mate selection.
Yeah, this is something I found absolutely amazing when discovering what utter emotionless psychopaths a lot of western women are when it comes to picking their partners and it was on the degree/profession front.
They want something recognisable that they can explain to their friends and show the man off as a status symbol. Something like a doctor, professor, engineer and that's all that matters as long as it's as you point out, high status. This is something I've ranted about in the past but it's really noticeable depending on what circles you run in this kind of attitude is pretty prevailent and it's usually down to class.
Nah, doesn't matter to these people if you end up a billionaire with property on top of that and know how central banks work as well as multiple programming languages etc. none of that impresses these people and it never will.
It began after WWII with the well-intended GI Bill of Rights, which in part granted tuition and housing $ to veterans, "democratizing" higher ed, but not yet compromising admissions criteria.
Around 1980, higher ed changed from the monastic to the "corporate" model--colleges catering to students as if they are consuming an education like any other commodity by constructing posh student activities facilities and housing, providing the consumer advocate service of "evaluating instructor effectiveness," and, of course, lowering admissions standards to allow entry of dumbasses who've been told all their lives that only losers don't attend college.
All this is on top of the affirmative action fiasco that lowered standards even further in pursuit of "Diversity, Inclusion, and Equity."
so was the internet, by the way (same for other network that predated the popularity of the internet, such as Usenet).
the built-in barrier of entry was that you needed a semi-functioning brain, a certain amount of inherent geekiness, and did not require instant gratification.