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posted 2 years ago by KnightOfTheRealm1152 2 years ago by KnightOfTheRealm1152 +70 / -0
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– TriangleGang 29 points 2 years ago +29 / -0

the decline is a necessary consequence of increasing educational attainment

College used to be for middle class and above. If you let dumb people into college and lower the standards so they don't fail, of course the average IQ of college students will drop.

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– Ahaus667 25 points 2 years ago +25 / -0

It’s the lowest common denominator factor. This is why “college” has become a printing press of degrees that range from “basically a ged” to “actually requires talent so we have to force DEI initiatives”.

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– ClownTamer 13 points 2 years ago +13 / -0

Yeah. Them getting rid of looking at the SATs for admissions isn’t going to help, either. The test is a lot of things but it does correlate very well with people that do well in school in real degree programs.

I got into an argument with one guy about that. He said it’s a stupid test because they don’t teach it in school and it doesn’t mean anything. I told him it’s a test about reading, writing, and math, and asked him what they taught in schools. He said he used to sub and they didn’t teach any of that. I asked him what they did teach and he got flustered and said nothing.

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– Wellington 18 points 2 years ago +18 / -0

We have a very significant chunk of population when it comes to university who don't understand how wealth and job creation actually works and think that a piece of paper magicks it all into existence.

As a former college professor, I can say that this is true. College has become four years of daycare/extended adolescence with a quarter-million dollar cover charge. Even some of the best schools are turning into diploma mills. An alarming number of students go through thinking that if they just take the right classes, they'll get a magical piece of paper that will give them a comfy six-figure laptop-class job, despite the fact that they have acquired no useful skills in the process.

Colleges have become hedge funds that can hide inside of the school to use their tax exempt status.

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– WeedleTLiar 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

No, if you're a man without a degree you may as well be an illiterate peasant.

This has nothing to do with intelligence and everything to do with social status.

A degree is an official stamp of approval and women characteristically outsource mate selection.

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– OldBullLee 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

It began after WWII with the well-intended GI Bill of Rights, which in part granted tuition and housing $ to veterans, "democratizing" higher ed, but not yet compromising admissions criteria.

Around 1980, higher ed changed from the monastic to the "corporate" model--colleges catering to students as if they are consuming an education like any other commodity by constructing posh student activities facilities and housing, providing the consumer advocate service of "evaluating instructor effectiveness," and, of course, lowering admissions standards to allow entry of dumbasses who've been told all their lives that only losers don't attend college.

All this is on top of the affirmative action fiasco that lowered standards even further in pursuit of "Diversity, Inclusion, and Equity."

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– TisDaRhythmOfDaNight 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

so was the internet, by the way (same for other network that predated the popularity of the internet, such as Usenet).

the built-in barrier of entry was that you needed a semi-functioning brain, a certain amount of inherent geekiness, and did not require instant gratification.

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