Calling John money and his studies what they are isn’t well poisoning, it scientific accuracy. The fact the MRA anti circumcision push is entirely based on arguments made from Kinsey, Money, Foucault et al is not poisoning the well either, if anything it’s an oxymoronic stance considering MRA reviles these people completely. That’s the facts of the studies and who conducted them. Saying the UN and WHO conducted the Africa studies shows it wasn’t “Christian Africans versus bush meat cannibals” which you poised, not me. There are platitudes of studies showing health benefits from circumcision of which the Africa study is a portion. Say we scrap Africa, that still gives us… lower std rates in the US for circumcised males, lower penile cancer rates, and higher health outcomes across the board.
The varying lifestyle argument is essentially circumcised white men have lower std rates than non circumcised African/Hispanic men. It still doesn’t track considering circumcised white men have lower risks across the board compared to uncircumcised white men.
If we’re using this line of thought then circumcision still wins as it is a marker of a healthier lifestyle in every study. You can only argue lifestyle to a certain point, as people who are circumcised and uncircumcised in the same ethnicity and socioeconomic status and having different outcomes.
Calling John money and his studies what they are isn’t well poisoning, it scientific accuracy. The fact the MRA anti circumcision push is entirely based on arguments made from Kinsey, Money, Foucault et al is not poisoning the well either, if anything it’s an oxymoronic stance considering MRA reviles these people completely. That’s the facts of the studies and who conducted them. Saying the UN and WHO conducted the Africa studies shows it wasn’t “Christian Africans versus bush meat cannibals” which you poised, not me. There are platitudes of studies showing health benefits from circumcision of which the Africa study is a portion. Say we scrap Africa, that still gives us… lower std rates in the US for circumcised males, lower penile cancer rates, and higher health outcomes across the board.
You still have the varying lifestyle problems within the US. The UN and WHO are also big fans of all those perverts.
The varying lifestyle argument is essentially circumcised white men have lower std rates than non circumcised African/Hispanic men. It still doesn’t track considering circumcised white men have lower risks across the board compared to uncircumcised white men.
White men don't have a singular, unifying lifestyle either. The same logic still applies, though I assume it involves less cannibalism.
If we’re using this line of thought then circumcision still wins as it is a marker of a healthier lifestyle in every study. You can only argue lifestyle to a certain point, as people who are circumcised and uncircumcised in the same ethnicity and socioeconomic status and having different outcomes.