The right image defines it as "realistic," which one could hope simply means that if they cannot tell if its an actual child or not they lean on the side of caution and absolutely destroy that shit.
Because that part has always been super illegal, and was one of the big reasons for the Supreme Court case in the 90s, wherein guys were pasting kids heads on nude bodies and other stuff were it could be CP unless you specifically knew it wasn't.
But that's probably not going to be the case, as that's far too much interest in protecting actual kids over angry feelings about drawings.
The problem is some people cannot separate "I personally find it reprehensible and will judge you on it" from "It should be illegal, banished and the full weight thrown at you for it."
Personally, I find it quite effective to simply quote actual laws at them and the history of them, which usually gets them caught in a loop of screaming "YOU ARE A PEDO FOR EVEN QUESTIONING IT! The government would NEVER abuse a law if you let them pass it!!"
People on here actively refuse to separate the two. I have flat out said I don't want it banned just acknowledged that it's pedo shit and all I'll hear back is "you're trying to censor" "so you want it banned"
(Not to undermine your point, adding clarification)
Quite a few of the states where consent is not explicitly 18, they have Romeo-Juliet laws instead, where 16~18(-1 day) yo adolescents can consent if both male and female are in the range, but it's still 18 if one or the other is not.
True. But my point remains: they care more about fictional characters than the ACTUAL CHILDREN their congressmen are fucking for blackmail material so they're always controlled. Step out of line, the footage gets released. Right, Dennis Hastert?
That will be revealed in the next couple of years. You heard it here first.
There are lots of states where 16 or 17 is completely legal. Romeo and Juliet laws are more for situations like a high school senior dating a freshman.
so you don’t go to prison for banging your 15 year old girlfriend at 17
That's why I brought up said laws.
I don't want to get too deep into the details of this because it gets confusing and messy, but my understanding is there are three aspects to consent: Age difference (the Romeo-and-Juliet laws), Authority and then No Restrictions. Depending on the state, the first, the second, or both may not apply. (I believe the "authority" stuff is so teachers and instructors aren't molesting teens that just finished puberty)
From a quick look up, currently the No Restrictions ages of consent are 16 in 17 states, 17 in 5 states, 18 in 27 states, and 21 in the state of Washington. So 18 is technically the most common without special additions. 15 states have the "by authority" limit at 16yo which means for those states it is technically 16. It's 17 for two states, so that makes 17 states where it's actually not 18. (EDIT: My math was wrong here, it's 32-33 states)
I should have clarified that I meant 18 as "unrestricted" consent, because I wrongly assumed that was what consent meant. There's also the whole social aspect that throws a wrench in assumptions, where most people I come across view going at under 18 as pedophilia/gross, even if it's technically legal in a third two thirds of the nation.
I don’t come across the under 18 crazy crowd, because I live in the majority of the continental USA where 16 and 17 are legal.
Saying sex with a 17 year old and 364 days is comical. Gotta wait until midnight if you don’t wanna be a pedophile!
18 is a ridiculous age of consent. Juniors and seniors in high school are having sex, and they sometimes seek out older partners. Criminalizing what is happening everywhere is insane.
There are going to be AI Art detecting AIs. There probably already are. If they can use a tool to detect that it is not a real photo, then that is part of due diligence.
Prosecution "Your honor, this is evil filth thrown them in prison forever!"
Defense: "You honor, may I point out that the image has seven fingers on her right hand, as well as an unlikely level of visual symmetry. It is clearly generated by a machine."
Reminder that the age of consent is only 18 in a few states.
But one of those states is California. So in their bubble, they think it's everywhere.
Not that it matters. Drawings do not have human rights.
I don't like the art, but I hate censorship more.
The right image defines it as "realistic," which one could hope simply means that if they cannot tell if its an actual child or not they lean on the side of caution and absolutely destroy that shit.
Because that part has always been super illegal, and was one of the big reasons for the Supreme Court case in the 90s, wherein guys were pasting kids heads on nude bodies and other stuff were it could be CP unless you specifically knew it wasn't.
But that's probably not going to be the case, as that's far too much interest in protecting actual kids over angry feelings about drawings.
But you know damn well its gonna be exploited where they report every anime character lol.
not just "no boobs" i've seen people complaining "the face looks like a child" about characters that are obviously well over the age
So that's Rob Liefield in the clear since he's never, ever been able to draw feet.
Greg Land however with his pathological scanning of real faces, likely porn faces at that... 🙄
The problem is some people cannot separate "I personally find it reprehensible and will judge you on it" from "It should be illegal, banished and the full weight thrown at you for it."
Personally, I find it quite effective to simply quote actual laws at them and the history of them, which usually gets them caught in a loop of screaming "YOU ARE A PEDO FOR EVEN QUESTIONING IT! The government would NEVER abuse a law if you let them pass it!!"
People on here actively refuse to separate the two. I have flat out said I don't want it banned just acknowledged that it's pedo shit and all I'll hear back is "you're trying to censor" "so you want it banned"
(Not to undermine your point, adding clarification) Quite a few of the states where consent is not explicitly 18, they have Romeo-Juliet laws instead, where 16~18(-1 day) yo adolescents can consent if both male and female are in the range, but it's still 18 if one or the other is not.
True. But my point remains: they care more about fictional characters than the ACTUAL CHILDREN their congressmen are fucking for blackmail material so they're always controlled. Step out of line, the footage gets released. Right, Dennis Hastert?
That will be revealed in the next couple of years. You heard it here first.
There are lots of states where 16 or 17 is completely legal. Romeo and Juliet laws are more for situations like a high school senior dating a freshman.
That’s not the case for most of the US. 16 is most common, then 17, then 18.
Most have Romeo and Juliet laws in addition, so you don’t go to prison for banging your 15 year old girlfriend at 17.
That's why I brought up said laws.
I don't want to get too deep into the details of this because it gets confusing and messy, but my understanding is there are three aspects to consent: Age difference (the Romeo-and-Juliet laws), Authority and then No Restrictions. Depending on the state, the first, the second, or both may not apply. (I believe the "authority" stuff is so teachers and instructors aren't molesting teens that just finished puberty)
From a quick look up, currently the No Restrictions ages of consent are 16 in 17 states, 17 in 5 states, 18 in 27 states, and 21 in the state of Washington. So 18 is technically the most common without special additions. 15 states have the "by authority" limit at 16yo which means for those states it is technically 16. It's 17 for two states, so that makes
17 states where it's actually not 18.(EDIT: My math was wrong here, it's 32-33 states)I should have clarified that I meant 18 as "unrestricted" consent, because I wrongly assumed that was what consent meant. There's also the whole social aspect that throws a wrench in assumptions, where most people I come across view going at under 18 as pedophilia/gross, even if it's technically legal in
a thirdtwo thirds of the nation.I don’t come across the under 18 crazy crowd, because I live in the majority of the continental USA where 16 and 17 are legal.
Saying sex with a 17 year old and 364 days is comical. Gotta wait until midnight if you don’t wanna be a pedophile!
18 is a ridiculous age of consent. Juniors and seniors in high school are having sex, and they sometimes seek out older partners. Criminalizing what is happening everywhere is insane.
Where are you getting the age of consent is 21 in WA state? I looked it up and it is 16. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_the_United_States
There are going to be AI Art detecting AIs. There probably already are. If they can use a tool to detect that it is not a real photo, then that is part of due diligence.
Prosecution "Your honor, this is evil filth thrown them in prison forever!"
Defense: "You honor, may I point out that the image has seven fingers on her right hand, as well as an unlikely level of visual symmetry. It is clearly generated by a machine."
Overly realistic images of children in sexual situations are already illegal and considered CP
It really depends on your jurisdiction, mate. Go talk to a Canadian or an Aussie.