This is actually something I find cringe because as much as I hate leftists and what they're doing to the games industry I have been beginning to hate the people who complain about them more
This is your take on virtually every thread on this forum. You are constantly complaining about right wingers and anti-sjws. You slide almost every topic in this exact same way. “Leftists are obviously terrible, but I’m really starting to be annoyed by <insert people who oppose leftism>, amirite guys?” It’s pathetic.
Just because someone's name references the mythological river that lost souls drink from in order to forget everything that is actually important to them, doesn't mean they are here to make lost souls distracted from important topics! I mean, "since 2016", oh my! That's a long time to be in the "Trenches" and lord it over us! We've all only been here since Gamergate, which was... Oh, 2014. Two years earlier than this "veteran". Hmm...
Well, I tried. Seems I just made the situation look worse, amazing that.
I have been beginning to hate the people who complain about them more and do nothing to better the situation or themselves and it's been rapidly pissing me off.
I mean, you see this as a "movement" whereas for most of these guys its their job. I doubt you go around fixing your entire company's issues for free on your job.
Like, I hate the endless whine as much as any and its had me unsub from most of them, but at some point it ceases to be a passion project of justice to them and becomes "I need to get this many minutes of angry footage in per video and pump out at least 2 videos a day to keep my income stable."
If it's his job, he's not doing it "for free." He's just doing an incredibly shitty job. Guys like this aren't worth defending anyways. He's practically advertising for Bethesda, and his sperge out is better propaganda for leftists than it is for us. There is absolutely no benefit to having him around.
Its also not your job to fix broken floor tiles at your workplace. Heck for most disgruntled enough people they don't even fix things that actively effect their job, they simply let it blow up in their management's faces. Its very rarely your job to do things outside of the narrow scope of what your contract mandates, and I'd bet no one here goes above and beyond those scopes either.
I don't find him worth defending or having around either. I simply find the "get off your ass and do something" criticism to be just as cliched and boring when people treat it as some divine revelation they are just discovering.
I often view them as bad if not sometimes worse than leftists now
See. You can’t help yourself. You could just criticize them, but you are always side swiping right wingers or claiming that they’re maybe even worse than the leftists. It’s a huge tell.
but it's why I often view them as bad if not sometimes worse than leftists now with how they behave.
Why? Because instead of actually destroying things outright they are content to just sit back and be angry? The fuck kind of argument is that? How is anything being done there even a fraction as bad as literally chopping children's genitals off or letting people be murdered in chimpouts?
They are pathetic and impotent, but they are just that. Sad. They have no effect on the world at large and make no one's life worse by existing. Whereas Leftists are actively trying to rape and ruin everything around them, and that's a prerequisite for their belief system.
I always put the qualifier in of I don't hate these people for real or anything, but it's why I often view them as bad if not sometimes worse than leftists now with how they behave.
I typically agree with a lot of what you say, but this here just misses the mark by a wide margin and I'll explain why...
With people who incessantly complain about things but don't enact change, they're effectively shouting into a void. It doesn't do anything. It's frustrating that they have a platform where they're essentially preaching to the choir, but it doesn't affect anything. That in itself is frustrating, but it's not inducing any malleable changes to the infrastructure on a sociopolitical or cultural level.
The opposite side of the factor is much worse for the simple fact that it cannot be ignored.
I can ignore a talking head on YouTube screaming about pronouns or a tranny character that they won't do anything about, nor encourage their fandom to do anything about (such as write letters to the companies, buy competing products, or at least try to stage a boycott).
But what I can't do is ignore everything coming from the Left that affects our society and culture. For example, a favourite TV show being turned woke is not something you can simply ignore and keep watching without supporting the wokeness, you have to stop watching the show. A movie franchise being used for subversion tactics means you have to give up watching and/or supporting those movies. Comic books and literature being used as platforms to brainwash readers means you have to stop reading those books or literature. And games being turned into vehicles for Left-wing propaganda means you have to stop playing those games and/or supporting the companies who make those games.
In effect, the people who complain but do nothing are just that, impotent ragers who can be ignored. But the people who are spearheading these changes and actually affecting culture as a result cannot be ignored, because your only option is to then either stop engaging in culture, or try to find an alternative culture to engage in.
And whilst creating a counter-culture revolution is always a possibility, you have to keep in mind that majority of people are not revolutionary creative types. Most people are of the proletariat variety who just want to work, eat, sleep, and be on about their day.
TL;DR: People who complain about wokeness in media don't affect anything. People who are turning the media woke are affecting everything.
I don't consume or enjoy spergy content like that, but I am still glad it's around. He's obviously not going to convince any major devs directly to change their ways, but he does help rile up a rabble to go publicly fling shit at the practice of shoving gender ideology into all games and other media.
One of the bigger barriers to meaningful action has been the exploitation of the inertia of politeness to create the impression that dissenters are a small minority. It makes smart people want to keep their heads down rather than join a losing battle. Whilst it's proven very effective for SJ pushing intellectuals to have emotional, easily-led, belligerent footsoldiers on tap to indirectly threaten their opposition with, whilst publicly disavowing their actions.
The upwelling of angry, antagonistic public responses to an industry-standard level of current
year gender bullshit, race baiting and girlbossing in starfield is refreshing. And it's maybe an indication that the commentators actually have done something about their issues of complaint, by slowly emboldening their audience to be as loud and angry as them out in the wild and overwhelming the curated impression that most people are ok with it.
Sure, they don't often make the smartest points, and some of the rabble rousers are primarily in it for the grift. But I'm of the opinion that you'll never be free from grifters or easily led griftees, and the next best option is to have a healthy variety of grifters so they're all too busy undermining each other for any one camp to do serious harm. Like a healthy gut biome for the shit factory of internet commentary.
So I don't hate them. I'm glad they're around in fact, cringe notwithstanding.
This is your take on virtually every thread on this forum. You are constantly complaining about right wingers and anti-sjws. You slide almost every topic in this exact same way. “Leftists are obviously terrible, but I’m really starting to be annoyed by <insert people who oppose leftism>, amirite guys?” It’s pathetic.
Just because someone's name references the mythological river that lost souls drink from in order to forget everything that is actually important to them, doesn't mean they are here to make lost souls distracted from important topics! I mean, "since 2016", oh my! That's a long time to be in the "Trenches" and lord it over us! We've all only been here since Gamergate, which was... Oh, 2014. Two years earlier than this "veteran". Hmm...
Well, I tried. Seems I just made the situation look worse, amazing that.
This guy's a streamer streaming playing the latest AAA game. Even if this is his honest opinion it's all performative.
"I just wanted a quiet evening to myself playing new game as a way to unwind...while broadcasting myself playing it to thousands of strangers."
I mean, you see this as a "movement" whereas for most of these guys its their job. I doubt you go around fixing your entire company's issues for free on your job.
Like, I hate the endless whine as much as any and its had me unsub from most of them, but at some point it ceases to be a passion project of justice to them and becomes "I need to get this many minutes of angry footage in per video and pump out at least 2 videos a day to keep my income stable."
If it's his job, he's not doing it "for free." He's just doing an incredibly shitty job. Guys like this aren't worth defending anyways. He's practically advertising for Bethesda, and his sperge out is better propaganda for leftists than it is for us. There is absolutely no benefit to having him around.
Its also not your job to fix broken floor tiles at your workplace. Heck for most disgruntled enough people they don't even fix things that actively effect their job, they simply let it blow up in their management's faces. Its very rarely your job to do things outside of the narrow scope of what your contract mandates, and I'd bet no one here goes above and beyond those scopes either.
I don't find him worth defending or having around either. I simply find the "get off your ass and do something" criticism to be just as cliched and boring when people treat it as some divine revelation they are just discovering.
See. You can’t help yourself. You could just criticize them, but you are always side swiping right wingers or claiming that they’re maybe even worse than the leftists. It’s a huge tell.
Why? Because instead of actually destroying things outright they are content to just sit back and be angry? The fuck kind of argument is that? How is anything being done there even a fraction as bad as literally chopping children's genitals off or letting people be murdered in chimpouts?
They are pathetic and impotent, but they are just that. Sad. They have no effect on the world at large and make no one's life worse by existing. Whereas Leftists are actively trying to rape and ruin everything around them, and that's a prerequisite for their belief system.
I typically agree with a lot of what you say, but this here just misses the mark by a wide margin and I'll explain why...
With people who incessantly complain about things but don't enact change, they're effectively shouting into a void. It doesn't do anything. It's frustrating that they have a platform where they're essentially preaching to the choir, but it doesn't affect anything. That in itself is frustrating, but it's not inducing any malleable changes to the infrastructure on a sociopolitical or cultural level.
The opposite side of the factor is much worse for the simple fact that it cannot be ignored.
I can ignore a talking head on YouTube screaming about pronouns or a tranny character that they won't do anything about, nor encourage their fandom to do anything about (such as write letters to the companies, buy competing products, or at least try to stage a boycott).
But what I can't do is ignore everything coming from the Left that affects our society and culture. For example, a favourite TV show being turned woke is not something you can simply ignore and keep watching without supporting the wokeness, you have to stop watching the show. A movie franchise being used for subversion tactics means you have to give up watching and/or supporting those movies. Comic books and literature being used as platforms to brainwash readers means you have to stop reading those books or literature. And games being turned into vehicles for Left-wing propaganda means you have to stop playing those games and/or supporting the companies who make those games.
In effect, the people who complain but do nothing are just that, impotent ragers who can be ignored. But the people who are spearheading these changes and actually affecting culture as a result cannot be ignored, because your only option is to then either stop engaging in culture, or try to find an alternative culture to engage in.
And whilst creating a counter-culture revolution is always a possibility, you have to keep in mind that majority of people are not revolutionary creative types. Most people are of the proletariat variety who just want to work, eat, sleep, and be on about their day.
TL;DR: People who complain about wokeness in media don't affect anything. People who are turning the media woke are affecting everything.
I don't consume or enjoy spergy content like that, but I am still glad it's around. He's obviously not going to convince any major devs directly to change their ways, but he does help rile up a rabble to go publicly fling shit at the practice of shoving gender ideology into all games and other media.
One of the bigger barriers to meaningful action has been the exploitation of the inertia of politeness to create the impression that dissenters are a small minority. It makes smart people want to keep their heads down rather than join a losing battle. Whilst it's proven very effective for SJ pushing intellectuals to have emotional, easily-led, belligerent footsoldiers on tap to indirectly threaten their opposition with, whilst publicly disavowing their actions.
The upwelling of angry, antagonistic public responses to an industry-standard level of current year gender bullshit, race baiting and girlbossing in starfield is refreshing. And it's maybe an indication that the commentators actually have done something about their issues of complaint, by slowly emboldening their audience to be as loud and angry as them out in the wild and overwhelming the curated impression that most people are ok with it.
Sure, they don't often make the smartest points, and some of the rabble rousers are primarily in it for the grift. But I'm of the opinion that you'll never be free from grifters or easily led griftees, and the next best option is to have a healthy variety of grifters so they're all too busy undermining each other for any one camp to do serious harm. Like a healthy gut biome for the shit factory of internet commentary.
So I don't hate them. I'm glad they're around in fact, cringe notwithstanding.