I'm unfamiliar with this story, mainly because I don't particularly care.
But why did he kiss her in particular? She wasn't the most attractive member of the team, and it's also a strange thing to do in that context. So did they have a prior relationship? Is she playing the victim in order to become famous worldwide, or is he randomly a creep specifically to the women who are above average but not too pretty?
No, not always. When I hear the word "creep", I think of that quote from the guy in Dazed and Confused:
That's what I love about these high school girls, man. I get older, they stay the same age.
He wasn't the worst-looking dude. Ugly moustache, but otherwise handsome enough. Now imagine having family members, male or especially female, hanging around people like that, and tell me if you think that that's healthy.
Edit: A lot of people seem to disagree with me that this near-paedophilic quote is something reproachable. Interesting.
That's the original definition of the term. The guy you're responding to is pointing out that these days the term is mostly used to slander unattractive men for daring to exist by associating them with the kind of example you gave. Women often become enraged when a man they find unattractive approaches them because they take it as an insinuation that they're on the same level as someone they see as subhuman.
The term creep, like misogynist, racist, incel and other loaded words, has had their definitions extrapolated to go beyond the traditional dictionary definition. In modern day parlance on social media, creep means unattractive, which tends to be defined in the eye of the beholder. This is why the "gym creep" trend became a thing earlier this year.
In the video you can tell the guy is extremely happy about the victory. They just won the world cup. I think in that specific moment he was just overly ecstatic and kissed her because in many European countries, kissing people in the manner he did is not entirely uncommon to say hello let alone to celebrate as well. It reminds me of the famous V-J Day in Times Square photo. The sailor kissed a woman randomly he had never met before because he was so happy the war had ended. Back in the 1940s such an act was cherished because it was a display of unrestrained love due to extreme happiness and everyone recognized it as a joyful thing and allowed for the transgression of no consent because realistically, a kiss is harmless. It is only in modern times that anyone looks at something like this as bad.
Why did he feel compelled to kiss her specifically? I think in all likelihood, there was some slight unspoken tension between her and him. Like if he was going to romantically hookup with anyone on the team it would probably be her which is precisely why she wasn't the hottest on the team because he's not a super attractive guy himself. That likely has absolutely nothing to do with anything specific she said to him or any specific action taken by him or her but rather just an unspoken knowing that his subconscious mind acted out on. Just as how if you're thrown into a classroom for a year, you kind of know which girl you'd probably have a chance to date and want to hookup with and she probably isn't going to be the hottest in the class.
In a sane world, the woman and this guy would just deal with the situation like grown adults which means not invoking public HR to get the guy fired.
Humans are like the primate version of ants/bees. With the exception of North Americans/Aussies, who had many generations to get used to a lot of personal space, including having a personal patch of land. Hell, I remember apartments being considered for the "newly wed and nearly dead", not as a way of life. I guess condos went and changed that perception ... I guess around the time the Jeffersons "moved on up" from a house in a nice neighbourhood in Queens to some shitty penthouse apartment in urban hell Manhattan.
Europe has a very warped concept of personal space. Not that I especially give a crap about this bitch, but that actually is their culture so she's pouting without any real basis.
Now if you want some seriously rude fuckers go to Greece. The Greeks don't think they're too close until their hands are in your pockets.
That is surprising. Either Americans have a radically different idea of personal space (can any American visitors to Europe confirm), or things have changed a lot since then. You could arguably say this about Italy or Spain, and especially Greece, but the rest?
I'm unfamiliar with this story, mainly because I don't particularly care.
But why did he kiss her in particular? She wasn't the most attractive member of the team, and it's also a strange thing to do in that context. So did they have a prior relationship? Is she playing the victim in order to become famous worldwide, or is he randomly a creep specifically to the women who are above average but not too pretty?
Creep = unattractive man. The complaints about creepiness always boils down to unattractive men offend me with their presence.
No, not always. When I hear the word "creep", I think of that quote from the guy in Dazed and Confused:
He wasn't the worst-looking dude. Ugly moustache, but otherwise handsome enough. Now imagine having family members, male or especially female, hanging around people like that, and tell me if you think that that's healthy.
Edit: A lot of people seem to disagree with me that this near-paedophilic quote is something reproachable. Interesting.
That's the original definition of the term. The guy you're responding to is pointing out that these days the term is mostly used to slander unattractive men for daring to exist by associating them with the kind of example you gave. Women often become enraged when a man they find unattractive approaches them because they take it as an insinuation that they're on the same level as someone they see as subhuman.
The term creep, like misogynist, racist, incel and other loaded words, has had their definitions extrapolated to go beyond the traditional dictionary definition. In modern day parlance on social media, creep means unattractive, which tends to be defined in the eye of the beholder. This is why the "gym creep" trend became a thing earlier this year.
In the video you can tell the guy is extremely happy about the victory. They just won the world cup. I think in that specific moment he was just overly ecstatic and kissed her because in many European countries, kissing people in the manner he did is not entirely uncommon to say hello let alone to celebrate as well. It reminds me of the famous V-J Day in Times Square photo. The sailor kissed a woman randomly he had never met before because he was so happy the war had ended. Back in the 1940s such an act was cherished because it was a display of unrestrained love due to extreme happiness and everyone recognized it as a joyful thing and allowed for the transgression of no consent because realistically, a kiss is harmless. It is only in modern times that anyone looks at something like this as bad.
Why did he feel compelled to kiss her specifically? I think in all likelihood, there was some slight unspoken tension between her and him. Like if he was going to romantically hookup with anyone on the team it would probably be her which is precisely why she wasn't the hottest on the team because he's not a super attractive guy himself. That likely has absolutely nothing to do with anything specific she said to him or any specific action taken by him or her but rather just an unspoken knowing that his subconscious mind acted out on. Just as how if you're thrown into a classroom for a year, you kind of know which girl you'd probably have a chance to date and want to hookup with and she probably isn't going to be the hottest in the class.
In a sane world, the woman and this guy would just deal with the situation like grown adults which means not invoking public HR to get the guy fired.
In all of Europe, there are exactly zero people who kiss others on the mouth 'to say hello'.
Humans are like the primate version of ants/bees. With the exception of North Americans/Aussies, who had many generations to get used to a lot of personal space, including having a personal patch of land. Hell, I remember apartments being considered for the "newly wed and nearly dead", not as a way of life. I guess condos went and changed that perception ... I guess around the time the Jeffersons "moved on up" from a house in a nice neighbourhood in Queens to some shitty penthouse apartment in urban hell Manhattan.
Europe has a very warped concept of personal space. Not that I especially give a crap about this bitch, but that actually is their culture so she's pouting without any real basis.
Now if you want some seriously rude fuckers go to Greece. The Greeks don't think they're too close until their hands are in your pockets.
There are many different cultures in Europe. This is like thinking that New York City is all of America.
Eh, that is not saying much, they have their hands in the pockets of northern Europe from thousands of kilometers away.
I've been to almost every non Warsaw Pact nation on the continent in the 80s and 90s. With the exception of the Portuguese it's pretty accurate.
That is surprising. Either Americans have a radically different idea of personal space (can any American visitors to Europe confirm), or things have changed a lot since then. You could arguably say this about Italy or Spain, and especially Greece, but the rest?