Rather than needing to be rescued, Peach was a capable character throughout The Super Mario Bros. Movie.
There's your problem.
Every other character had flaws that they needed to grapple with, which creates tension and resolution, which is interesting.
If a character is just good at everything then they're boring. It was the exact same problem with Toad (although, of course, women most affected). Would having a backstory for Peach have done anything, or would it just have been more set dressing?
Here's a pitch: Peach gets captured instead of Luigi, and stays captured in order to protect the Mushroom Kingdom. Bowser, instead of the cringe incel pining he does throughout the movie, now has to grapple with "what does a socially inept dragon-turtle actually do when the object of his affection is a real person, right in front of him?"
Peach's arc is not being able to escape, but finding creative ways to subvert Bowser and help the Marios. This could be getting information about his plans to the Bros, making Bowser doubt himself and make mistakes, and securing the power star for the final encounter.
The problem with feminism, which has always been the problem, is that they don't actually want what they say they want so, when they get it, they just complain more. It's pure jealousy of men for having things, without realizing that there are consequences.
Peach's arc is not being able to escape, but finding creative ways to subvert Bowser and help the Marios. This could be getting information about his plans to the Bros, making Bowser doubt himself and make mistakes, and securing the power star for the final encounter.
Paper Mario (and TTYD) both had really good characterization. The Peach interludes between chapters are great. It's a shame what happened to the series.
I never played Paper Mario, lol, it just seemed like the most logical way to give Peach some character.
Truthfully, I'm with MatPat in that I think Peach is actually a super-human kami/goddess who created the Toads and allows herself to be captured because she's entertained watching Mario try to save her, but that's a pretty boring character.
They made a Mario movie where Mario is the bumbling idiot nobody cares about, Luigi is the damsel in distress, and Peach is the ultra competent flawless savior until the last 10% of the movie. They also gave Cranky Kong an unbelievably wrong voice (though most of the VAs were just phoning it in, there were like two characters where anybody actually tried to do a voice that wasn't their normal speaking voice) and they just licensed songs instead of using cool orchestrated Mario game music.
your rewrite is pretty good, but they would never go for it. ability and power can only come in the form of physical strength according to these people. they are literally incapable of depicting a competent in powerful person without making them punch the bad guy.
Which is basically why modern movies are boring, at best.
Say what you will about it, but I'll be quoting Bob Hoskins and Dennis Hopper long after I forget that Chris Pratt and Seth Rogan were ever in a Mario movie.
Lol... someone has played the super mario rpg / paper mario games. Also your post proves that writers should eat dirt for their strike. I hope the studios lose on AI and the writers also lose on wage. Idk how but I'm hoping for hope's sake.
Mario RPG and Chrono Trigger were my intro to RPGs, lotta fond memories.
Never played Paper Mario but I'm hearing they laid out a whole yard of groundwork that the movie decided to ignore.
My hope for AI is that guys like Mauler and the Critical Drinker can use it to independantly produce high quality movies powered by their storytelling prowess without needing a huge Hollywood setup.
Imagine if authors could create movies on their own?
There's your problem.
Every other character had flaws that they needed to grapple with, which creates tension and resolution, which is interesting.
If a character is just good at everything then they're boring. It was the exact same problem with Toad (although, of course, women most affected). Would having a backstory for Peach have done anything, or would it just have been more set dressing?
Here's a pitch: Peach gets captured instead of Luigi, and stays captured in order to protect the Mushroom Kingdom. Bowser, instead of the cringe incel pining he does throughout the movie, now has to grapple with "what does a socially inept dragon-turtle actually do when the object of his affection is a real person, right in front of him?"
Peach's arc is not being able to escape, but finding creative ways to subvert Bowser and help the Marios. This could be getting information about his plans to the Bros, making Bowser doubt himself and make mistakes, and securing the power star for the final encounter.
The problem with feminism, which has always been the problem, is that they don't actually want what they say they want so, when they get it, they just complain more. It's pure jealousy of men for having things, without realizing that there are consequences.
Paper Mario did almost exactly this.
Paper Mario (and TTYD) both had really good characterization. The Peach interludes between chapters are great. It's a shame what happened to the series.
One would hope when the Super Mario RPG remake does well commercially, Nintendo finally gets the memo people want a traditional RPG Paper Mario game.
Nintendo isn't capable of actually understanding what people want from things that unfold.
That's why they took the failure of Star Fox Zero to mean that people just didn't want Star Fox, instead of people didn't want motion controls.
I never played Paper Mario, lol, it just seemed like the most logical way to give Peach some character.
Truthfully, I'm with MatPat in that I think Peach is actually a super-human kami/goddess who created the Toads and allows herself to be captured because she's entertained watching Mario try to save her, but that's a pretty boring character.
They made a Mario movie where Mario is the bumbling idiot nobody cares about, Luigi is the damsel in distress, and Peach is the ultra competent flawless savior until the last 10% of the movie. They also gave Cranky Kong an unbelievably wrong voice (though most of the VAs were just phoning it in, there were like two characters where anybody actually tried to do a voice that wasn't their normal speaking voice) and they just licensed songs instead of using cool orchestrated Mario game music.
your rewrite is pretty good, but they would never go for it. ability and power can only come in the form of physical strength according to these people. they are literally incapable of depicting a competent in powerful person without making them punch the bad guy.
Which is basically why modern movies are boring, at best.
Say what you will about it, but I'll be quoting Bob Hoskins and Dennis Hopper long after I forget that Chris Pratt and Seth Rogan were ever in a Mario movie.
Now that's a movie I would have watched.
But you're 100% spot on that their whole goal is simply to subvert and destroy.
No matter what Nintendo does, they will complain until Nintendo complies.
Lol... someone has played the super mario rpg / paper mario games. Also your post proves that writers should eat dirt for their strike. I hope the studios lose on AI and the writers also lose on wage. Idk how but I'm hoping for hope's sake.
Mario RPG and Chrono Trigger were my intro to RPGs, lotta fond memories.
Never played Paper Mario but I'm hearing they laid out a whole yard of groundwork that the movie decided to ignore.
My hope for AI is that guys like Mauler and the Critical Drinker can use it to independantly produce high quality movies powered by their storytelling prowess without needing a huge Hollywood setup.
Imagine if authors could create movies on their own?
I'm near the end of Paper Mario Thousand Year Door, my 1st Mario RPG game. Really enjoying it so far.