I figured it would be interesting/ enlightening to hear from users who have found happy relationships in modern society and how they met. I know how much we love to make hating posts on the stupidity of modernity, but posts from guys that have successfully found stable relationships despite the cultural zeitgeist is just as important/ informative.
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So you want to hear stories of only the outliers?
The problem is that the majority of men either cannot find a relationship because of unrealistic expectations from women or they get into a relationship that fails because the woman found an option that she thinks is better.
Western society incentivizes women to have unrealistic expectations and to not value loyalty to their partner.
I am about 5'10. I am average in terms of facial aesthetics and I am an Asian American who is in decent shape. I might as well be invisible when it comes to female standards on online dating apps.
Most women I meet in real life are psychotic progressives and thus I find them very unattractive.
My standards for a girlfriend would be to not be a progressive and to not be fat and age ranging from 5 years younger than me to the same age as me. I am in my 30s.
Based on probability I likely will die alone and I have accepted it. I am fine with being MGTOW and not dealing with the absolute cancer that is most modern women.
This is not the feel-good response you were expecting but too bad. Life is not fair and western society has gone to hell.
Fuck clown world.
No the OP doesn’t want to hear yet another sob story about how rich, handsome, & built you are and still can’t manage to land anyone. We know; it sucks & is not fair. Being average must be 100x worse. We get it. But sometimes shit does work out. So let’s hear how they did it.
You don't want to hear about the reality of how it is for the majority of men who are average looking guys and are middle class.
I accept the skewed reality of the current sexual marketplace.
We live in an unfair clown world. No amount of complaining from me or anyone else will change anything.
It seems some people here want to just cope and hear only about the feel good outliers.
True, but I don't think the OP is one of those people. His takes on the SMP are very reasonable. As tempted as I am to bring MGTOW into this I think it's best to try to stay in the spirit on what the OP is asking for. There are plenty of other threads to talk about MGTOW, and you can always make your own if none of those interest you.
Considering we have posts daily about how much it sucks and doom and gloom, and this is the only "positive and hopeful" post I've ever seen on the topic, I cannot see where you think people only want to hear feel good shit.
But it does explain much about your failures that you find the slightest deviation from your 'woe is me' pity party to be a huge conspiracy against you.
KiA2 is where I go for upbeat romantic comedy hijinks.
I merely posted the reality of what the average man faces today with regards to pursuing women.
I am not demanding or feeling entitled to anything from anyone.
It is obvious that many of you here irrationally hate me just because I am a staunch conservative who happens to be a Trump critic.
It is obvious which people get mad at anything I write.
You clowns are pathetic.
Survivorship bias - history is written by the winners (as determined by society and evolution. Both deem people in relationships and starting families to be the winner).
I posted the reality of what the average man faces today with regards to pursuing women.
You must be fucking inbred to make the leap that I was demanding or feeling entitled to anything from anyone.
You sound like a left wing retard who calls everyone they hate as an incel.
I'm sure he was expecting it, considering what the userbase is. He was just hoping people could hold back their urge to make anything about what they want to see for a minute. Yah, I know, he should have known better.
Funny how you felt the need to make it so. You could have written your little rant in almost every other thread (while being completely on topic) but you couldn't have let OP and others have this one, no?
My man would rather die alone than be seen fucking a fat chick.
Yes, it's clown world.
I'm not the OP but asking about the outliers is a good way to gather raw intel on how to become an outlier yourself.
While it's okay to be fine with being MGTOW, you've got to remember that the future belongs to today's children and lord knows there are going to be a ton of absolutely fucked children in the future. The ones who can rise above it all are not just a benefit to your progeny but also a benefit to society and the species. It's a way to make sure your values don't die in the next inevitable internet censorship scrubbing.
The juice may not be worth the squeeze, but gauging the effort is pretty important in evaluating that.