The top 2 posters are both retards. It's possible to respect our cultural and linguistic ties to the UK without endorsing what the Founders fought against. It's also pretty funny that this guy accuses the US of being founded on racism when UK used slavery in their Caribbean colonies far more than hey did in the US. Something like 3% of the slaves shipped across the Atlantic ended up in the US. I don't say that to dump on the UK, but to point out that when we play the "I'm less racist then you are" game everyone loses.
Having a time machine (or perfect simulation machine) would be fascinating. I do wonder if Americans (including black Americans) would be more or less free now, if the Civil War had never happened. I'm thinking more. Slavery would have petered out fairly quickly anyway, and we would have at least slowed the march of authoritarian central government. I mean, considering it wasn't about slavery in the first place, that the current level of black freedom sprang up from it is a bit silly, when you think about it.
The interesting part of the Civil War was how much it was expected for decades up to it actually happening. Those who opposed the war believed that slavery would go away on its own. They often cited new technology as an example why they didn't need it anymore. Heck, even founding fathers pointed towards that.
The fact that it didn't go away, and that the rivalry between states continued became worse and worse. Remember the reason why they rewrote the constitution was because the states had too much power and often openly fought each other. The Federalist papers used that as a reason for the new constitution. The antifederalist papers said that any power of the country against the state would then become over the citizen and they would be subjects again. This is why the amendments were placed that gave rights for weapons, speech, ect. Both were very important in the creation of the country and it's ideals.
The fact that both arguments continued and festered shows that they weren't fully done. Heck, even today they don't appear to be done.
So the idea that slavery, or the arguments around it would just go away don't seem to be possible.
The top 2 posters are both retards. It's possible to respect our cultural and linguistic ties to the UK without endorsing what the Founders fought against. It's also pretty funny that this guy accuses the US of being founded on racism when UK used slavery in their Caribbean colonies far more than hey did in the US. Something like 3% of the slaves shipped across the Atlantic ended up in the US. I don't say that to dump on the UK, but to point out that when we play the "I'm less racist then you are" game everyone loses.
It's hardly "equal opportunity to all who are citizens of it" if some people are getting preferential treatment based on skin color.
Nintendo forums has been full of commies for a long time now. I think Nintendo of America has been spouting leftist dribble every now and then.
Having a time machine (or perfect simulation machine) would be fascinating. I do wonder if Americans (including black Americans) would be more or less free now, if the Civil War had never happened. I'm thinking more. Slavery would have petered out fairly quickly anyway, and we would have at least slowed the march of authoritarian central government. I mean, considering it wasn't about slavery in the first place, that the current level of black freedom sprang up from it is a bit silly, when you think about it.
The interesting part of the Civil War was how much it was expected for decades up to it actually happening. Those who opposed the war believed that slavery would go away on its own. They often cited new technology as an example why they didn't need it anymore. Heck, even founding fathers pointed towards that.
The fact that it didn't go away, and that the rivalry between states continued became worse and worse. Remember the reason why they rewrote the constitution was because the states had too much power and often openly fought each other. The Federalist papers used that as a reason for the new constitution. The antifederalist papers said that any power of the country against the state would then become over the citizen and they would be subjects again. This is why the amendments were placed that gave rights for weapons, speech, ect. Both were very important in the creation of the country and it's ideals.
The fact that both arguments continued and festered shows that they weren't fully done. Heck, even today they don't appear to be done.
So the idea that slavery, or the arguments around it would just go away don't seem to be possible.