The critics claim the lifestyle wasn't real because TV isn't real life, but then they repeat the lie (which is constantly reinforced by TV shows) that most housewives in the 50's were treated like cattle.
They're falsely claiming that part of this is about glorifying the worst negative Hollywood tropes about the 50's housewife. It has nothing to do with that, but they need to pretend it does so they can call it dangerous.
In the 50s my grandmother was a stay at home mom and my grandfather worked and they seemed to raise a decent family. She would do some part time work as her kids got older. I hate how they make it seem like torture
My grandmother was a poor white woman from around Appalachia and in addition to doing household stuff, raising a family and cooking, she worked in a factory, winding electrical wires (e.g. around a motor). Fucked up her hands for the rest of her life but that lady never once complained about a damn thing in her life.
Near the end of her life she fell and cracked some of the vertebrae in her back. She wasn't paralyzed or anything, but it had to hurt terribly. At the doctor's office they asked her pain on a scale of 1-10. She said no pain. She tried to stand up, hissed in pain, but kept going and tried to leave. The doctor who was probably in his 20s, was like "wtf is happening."
Her life, like many of that era, was a tragedy. She stopped school after 7th grade so she could stay home and raise her siblings after her mother died. Dad was alcoholic and abusive. Dirt poor, family almost starved one winter, surviving only on a 100 lb bag of dried beans they had bartered for. She said she could never eat beans again after that. She lost one kid during childbirth and another one after a nurse at the hospital dropped her baby (?!). In her 70s raised her grandkids who had deadbeat parents.
What is sad is that we don’t have people like your grandmother around anymore. My grandparents had similar stories and I’m glad I spent summers with them growing up
We grew up (well, my age demo did anyway) in the "ashes of civilization" and many, myself included, did not have the blessing to have or see good, stable families in our most formative years. Putting aside the existence of some who intentionally make social practices like marriage seem utterly miserable, we shouldn't be surprised they write what they do because what other experience do they have?
I couldn't tell you what makes a good marriage but thankfully I do know they exist because I see them every time I go to my parish. I wouldn't have said this ten years ago!
It's funny how feminism is all about female choice until a woman makes a choice that the feminists disapprove of. Then they try to bully her into submission.
Best of all, being high on the agreeable trait makes them much less likely to ask for a pay rise or complain when management increases the duties without reviewing the job description.
If women don't take off time to have a baby or raise their kids, they become the ideal worker. They are given to accepting emotional rewards.over financial remuneration and they play politics rather than chase higher wages.
On some level, I feel like they know the actual horrors of the housewife were that housewives with nothing to do once appliances made their work quick - became monsters.
They're always trying to create a narrative around this point.
I recall reading an article talking about how the food companies started to bring in psychologists around that time. Iirc Betty Crocker or some such company had a cake mix but it wasn't selling well. The psych figures out there basically wasn't anything for the women using the mix to do. You just combined the stuff in the box, put it in the oven, and bam it was done. The effort and work that went into cake making was a large part of what made it enjoyable for the women baking. Using the mix wasn't enjoyable and so sales suffered.
Coincidentally, cake decorating became a huge thing at the same time. Funny, that.
As an aside, I think a similar thing is at work with TV dinners. I doubt actually taking them out of the microwave half way through to r o t a t e the meat 5° does a single thing, but hey it probably feels to enough people like they're doing something. We've willed away effort through the magic of technology and so have to make do with these surrogate activities.
Yeah I used to hate eating stuff that was warmed up because 5% of it avoids getting hit and remains frozen/stuck together/etc. You bite into it and it's yech.
Once I started stirring everything halfway through that problem went away. Stirring in the middle of heating meant everything tasted as good/bad in the middle as it did at the start.
I think this might be backwards, women became such monsters as they got older and had nothing to do, they were desperate to be able to get away from them.
I know that's the opposite of the feminist narrative, but I've nearly every feminist narrative is grounded in telling the opposite of what actually happened.
The critics claim the lifestyle wasn't real because TV isn't real life, but then they repeat the lie (which is constantly reinforced by TV shows) that most housewives in the 50's were treated like cattle.
They're falsely claiming that part of this is about glorifying the worst negative Hollywood tropes about the 50's housewife. It has nothing to do with that, but they need to pretend it does so they can call it dangerous.
In the 50s my grandmother was a stay at home mom and my grandfather worked and they seemed to raise a decent family. She would do some part time work as her kids got older. I hate how they make it seem like torture
My grandmother was a poor white woman from around Appalachia and in addition to doing household stuff, raising a family and cooking, she worked in a factory, winding electrical wires (e.g. around a motor). Fucked up her hands for the rest of her life but that lady never once complained about a damn thing in her life.
Near the end of her life she fell and cracked some of the vertebrae in her back. She wasn't paralyzed or anything, but it had to hurt terribly. At the doctor's office they asked her pain on a scale of 1-10. She said no pain. She tried to stand up, hissed in pain, but kept going and tried to leave. The doctor who was probably in his 20s, was like "wtf is happening."
Her life, like many of that era, was a tragedy. She stopped school after 7th grade so she could stay home and raise her siblings after her mother died. Dad was alcoholic and abusive. Dirt poor, family almost starved one winter, surviving only on a 100 lb bag of dried beans they had bartered for. She said she could never eat beans again after that. She lost one kid during childbirth and another one after a nurse at the hospital dropped her baby (?!). In her 70s raised her grandkids who had deadbeat parents.
She was the strongest person I've ever met.
What is sad is that we don’t have people like your grandmother around anymore. My grandparents had similar stories and I’m glad I spent summers with them growing up
We grew up (well, my age demo did anyway) in the "ashes of civilization" and many, myself included, did not have the blessing to have or see good, stable families in our most formative years. Putting aside the existence of some who intentionally make social practices like marriage seem utterly miserable, we shouldn't be surprised they write what they do because what other experience do they have?
I couldn't tell you what makes a good marriage but thankfully I do know they exist because I see them every time I go to my parish. I wouldn't have said this ten years ago!
Awesome. Same here. I see great families at my church.
It's funny how feminism is all about female choice until a woman makes a choice that the feminists disapprove of. Then they try to bully her into submission.
Women's place is in the cube farm.
Best of all, being high on the agreeable trait makes them much less likely to ask for a pay rise or complain when management increases the duties without reviewing the job description.
If women don't take off time to have a baby or raise their kids, they become the ideal worker. They are given to accepting emotional rewards.over financial remuneration and they play politics rather than chase higher wages.
It is a plan without drawbacks!
On some level, I feel like they know the actual horrors of the housewife were that housewives with nothing to do once appliances made their work quick - became monsters.
They're always trying to create a narrative around this point.
I recall reading an article talking about how the food companies started to bring in psychologists around that time. Iirc Betty Crocker or some such company had a cake mix but it wasn't selling well. The psych figures out there basically wasn't anything for the women using the mix to do. You just combined the stuff in the box, put it in the oven, and bam it was done. The effort and work that went into cake making was a large part of what made it enjoyable for the women baking. Using the mix wasn't enjoyable and so sales suffered.
Coincidentally, cake decorating became a huge thing at the same time. Funny, that.
As an aside, I think a similar thing is at work with TV dinners. I doubt actually taking them out of the microwave half way through to r o t a t e the meat 5° does a single thing, but hey it probably feels to enough people like they're doing something. We've willed away effort through the magic of technology and so have to make do with these surrogate activities.
Yeah I used to hate eating stuff that was warmed up because 5% of it avoids getting hit and remains frozen/stuck together/etc. You bite into it and it's yech.
Once I started stirring everything halfway through that problem went away. Stirring in the middle of heating meant everything tasted as good/bad in the middle as it did at the start.
It doesn't help that no fault divorce put the family courts at their beck and call.
I think this might be backwards, women became such monsters as they got older and had nothing to do, they were desperate to be able to get away from them.
I know that's the opposite of the feminist narrative, but I've nearly every feminist narrative is grounded in telling the opposite of what actually happened.