It's more complicated than that. European politicians (outside of the UK) actually tend to be better than US ones on immigration. The US has been dealing with shit immigration policy (including many backstabbers who run on changing and then don't) for decades on in.
You're the most well-informed person here, as usual - though in Europe we have also dealt with politicians who run on decreasing immigration and then either do nothing or increase it.
Relying on a politician's moral compass to not backstab you is generally a loser's game. You have to be able to punish and force (legally, and all that) a politician for breaking his promises in that way, and because anti-immigration is a populist position (that of ordinary people, the 'poorly educated', who have disproportionately little political influence), that does not happen.
The Dutch government just collapsed because the 'center-right' PM, who has let in more immigrants than any other despite always promising to reduce them, had to make a show of pretending to oppose immigration, and his coalition partners wouldn't even agree to that. Gotta say, I didn't expect that to happen in Europe.
Depends. Do your far-leftists want to crack down on illegal immigrants while promoting work permits? Because Trump's position was always that he wants no illegal immigration but instead wants legal immigration.
European politics are just different. On economic issues, our right-wingers are like your Bernie Sanders. On immigration, it is different. Even European left-wing governments have cracked down on immigration, like Sweden in 2015. "Mainstream right-wing" parties are often owned by corporate interests like the GOP, and unfortunately, Meloni has been acting like one of those rather than a true populist.
To quote our favorite user here, she indeed is a TRAITOR.
Isn't the cliche line that European politics are so far Left that our "extreme Leftists" are still mid right to them?
At this point, I just expect any "far Right" European politician to just be the one asking for lube before the Globohomo ass fucks them.
It's more complicated than that. European politicians (outside of the UK) actually tend to be better than US ones on immigration. The US has been dealing with shit immigration policy (including many backstabbers who run on changing and then don't) for decades on in.
You're the most well-informed person here, as usual - though in Europe we have also dealt with politicians who run on decreasing immigration and then either do nothing or increase it.
Relying on a politician's moral compass to not backstab you is generally a loser's game. You have to be able to punish and force (legally, and all that) a politician for breaking his promises in that way, and because anti-immigration is a populist position (that of ordinary people, the 'poorly educated', who have disproportionately little political influence), that does not happen.
Yep, and in general, Europe is better at doing that (again, aside from the UK).
The Dutch government just collapsed because the 'center-right' PM, who has let in more immigrants than any other despite always promising to reduce them, had to make a show of pretending to oppose immigration, and his coalition partners wouldn't even agree to that. Gotta say, I didn't expect that to happen in Europe.
Depends. Do your far-leftists want to crack down on illegal immigrants while promoting work permits? Because Trump's position was always that he wants no illegal immigration but instead wants legal immigration.
European politics are just different. On economic issues, our right-wingers are like your Bernie Sanders. On immigration, it is different. Even European left-wing governments have cracked down on immigration, like Sweden in 2015. "Mainstream right-wing" parties are often owned by corporate interests like the GOP, and unfortunately, Meloni has been acting like one of those rather than a true populist.
To quote our favorite user here, she indeed is a TRAITOR.
At this point, EU left is not further left then the US left but the EU right is not that far off left. Not even sure if there is any right as in US.