I'm assuming we're going more idealist rather than realist here.
Use the DoE to ban the LGBTP groomer shit nation wide and impose basic math and literacy requirements.
Teach sexual dimorphism and HBD.
Allow racial segregation.
Fire nearly 100% of current teachers and administrators.
Hire new teachers who are based and pay them better.
Gut the education requirements for teachers so they are reduced to a few basics about dealing with children and otherwise consist of relevant field expertise.
Expel violent little bastards who are irredeemable.
Don't let sports be pro-sports pipelines and instead use them as fitness/communal activities.
I thought there already were math and literacy requirements?!
Seriously? Sure, on paper, there are requirements but anyone who has spent even a few minutes looking at educational results knows that those requirements are being consistently not met, and ignored.
In 2019, 40% of US high school seniors failed to achieve "Partial mastery of fundamental knowledge and skills". On reading, that number was 30%. Only 37% were proficient at reading, and only 24% were proficient at math. Plus, the next time that data is looked at, those numbers are going to massively tank due to the damage done by the covid lockdowns (the recent reports on 4th and 8th grade students both showed massive drops)
And that's national level data. In a lot of places, it is even worse. From February, there were 23 schools in Baltimore which did not have a single student proficient in math, and another 20 schools where there were only 1 or 2 students who scored as proficient.
Step 1 in fixing the educational system is start holding students back when they fail to meet the requirements, and start mass firings (beginning with the administration) if the students consistently fail to meet requirements.
I hate the idea that public sector workers are just rewarded for trying.
It is so, so, SO much worse than that. I've said this before on here I think, but I'm a community (junior) college computer science/IT professor. Probably about half my colleagues don't bother giving final exams in their classes. Many of them have a noticeable (10% or even more in some cases) portion of the student's grade in college level coursework (yes, anyone who wants to feel free to make jokes about community colleges being a continuation of high school, I've heard them all, but it's supposed to be college coursework) be "did you show up to class?". Because, when you fail Jimmy there's a chance Jimmy or Jimmy's parents start whining, and that gets escalated to the administration - and THAT gets into how most public sector employees function.
You do not try, unless absolutely necessary. Not only does trying potentially require effort on your part, but if you try you might have to get your boss involved, and if your boss has to get involved and maybe actually do some actual work then you might get in trouble. No, the goal of most public sector employees is "shut up the person on the other end of the desk/phone/etc. so they don't get the boss involved." And in an educational setting, that is just floating students through regardless of how little they actually know, because the lazy incompetent with a C who did nothing all semester will almost certainly be glad to take it and leave, whereas some of them may complain if they get a F. (Fortunately my department chair agrees with me on trying to have some rigor so he is willing to have my back in those cases, but I know at least 2 cases - one of mine and one from another professor in my department - did get escalated past him to the administration this past semester).
(and that holds for probably all public sector stuff, not just education. If you have time, listen to this playlist of a guy [Louis Rossmann, a few of his videos have shown up here before] spending literal days trying to figure out how a lien got placed on his business by New York City, and how to resolve it only to get bounced from department to department to department because no one in the bureaucracy even understands their own systems).
the system itself is flawed beyond belief to produce these results.
That's one way to put it, even then it is worse than anyone outside the system can imagine. At the high school level (and lower) in the US, it is even worse. Thanks primarily to No Child Left Behind (from George W Bush) and also other US Department of Education policies, it is nearly (if not literally) impossible to fail someone in high school. And that is not an exaggeration. You are forbidden from giving someone below a 50% (or is it 60%, not sure) as their grade in the first quarter of the school year even if the student does absolutely no work and gets a 0 on every exam - because a lower score is too difficult for them to make up. If a student does no work all year, and comes to you with 2 weeks left and says "I want to make up all the work I did not do" you are obligated to give them make up assignments, and give them credit for those makeups. And in the unlikely event that someone does fail a class, the district gives them some remedial stuff to do over the summer and then they're considered good to go for the next year. The US educational system is literally training people that they don't need to do anything they don't want to do, then they can just whine if things will end badly and their whining will be catered to.
It wouldn't be a ban about acknowledging gays exist, just not allowing "selling" the stuff.
Whatever requirements we supposedly have aren't working. What I mean is bare-minimum stuff where you can't get a diploma if you're an illiterate retard. As a Brit Bong, I don't think you understand how bad American schools truly are. There are actual illiterate people with diplomas because the schools just rubber stamp kids who don't do their work or pass tests. That's what I want to stop.
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WTF are you talking about? If you reject sexual dimorphism, people will start calling you a tranny again.
I'm not particularly concerned about sex-segregated schools. I don't think they need banning, maybe monitoring them at worst. It's racial integration that is immoral and is causing many horrible things to happen. Just let people segregate.
We both know we're not going to agree on what "based" means. That's not going to have much direct relevance to this discussion.
College sports in the US is an extremely corrupt pipeline to pro-sports and is, in many instances, already a pro-sport anyway.
That's concerning. No wonder the qualifications to get a basic job keep rising.
Correct. I'm still not entirely sure I understand it. They don't get paid, for reasons that don't make much sense, and their studies suffer so if they fail as athletes, they're fucked.
You have a lot to learn about America. These have been tired, dead horse issues for my parents let alone me.
One thing on the college sports thing, they actually lifted that ban on getting paid right before COVID hit so the top college players are getting million dollar endorsement deals now.
I'm assuming we're going more idealist rather than realist here.
Use the DoE to ban the LGBTP groomer shit nation wide and impose basic math and literacy requirements.
Teach sexual dimorphism and HBD.
Allow racial segregation.
Fire nearly 100% of current teachers and administrators.
Hire new teachers who are based and pay them better.
Gut the education requirements for teachers so they are reduced to a few basics about dealing with children and otherwise consist of relevant field expertise.
Expel violent little bastards who are irredeemable.
Don't let sports be pro-sports pipelines and instead use them as fitness/communal activities.
Seriously? Sure, on paper, there are requirements but anyone who has spent even a few minutes looking at educational results knows that those requirements are being consistently not met, and ignored.
In 2019, 40% of US high school seniors failed to achieve "Partial mastery of fundamental knowledge and skills". On reading, that number was 30%. Only 37% were proficient at reading, and only 24% were proficient at math. Plus, the next time that data is looked at, those numbers are going to massively tank due to the damage done by the covid lockdowns (the recent reports on 4th and 8th grade students both showed massive drops)
And that's national level data. In a lot of places, it is even worse. From February, there were 23 schools in Baltimore which did not have a single student proficient in math, and another 20 schools where there were only 1 or 2 students who scored as proficient.
Step 1 in fixing the educational system is start holding students back when they fail to meet the requirements, and start mass firings (beginning with the administration) if the students consistently fail to meet requirements.
It is so, so, SO much worse than that. I've said this before on here I think, but I'm a community (junior) college computer science/IT professor. Probably about half my colleagues don't bother giving final exams in their classes. Many of them have a noticeable (10% or even more in some cases) portion of the student's grade in college level coursework (yes, anyone who wants to feel free to make jokes about community colleges being a continuation of high school, I've heard them all, but it's supposed to be college coursework) be "did you show up to class?". Because, when you fail Jimmy there's a chance Jimmy or Jimmy's parents start whining, and that gets escalated to the administration - and THAT gets into how most public sector employees function.
You do not try, unless absolutely necessary. Not only does trying potentially require effort on your part, but if you try you might have to get your boss involved, and if your boss has to get involved and maybe actually do some actual work then you might get in trouble. No, the goal of most public sector employees is "shut up the person on the other end of the desk/phone/etc. so they don't get the boss involved." And in an educational setting, that is just floating students through regardless of how little they actually know, because the lazy incompetent with a C who did nothing all semester will almost certainly be glad to take it and leave, whereas some of them may complain if they get a F. (Fortunately my department chair agrees with me on trying to have some rigor so he is willing to have my back in those cases, but I know at least 2 cases - one of mine and one from another professor in my department - did get escalated past him to the administration this past semester).
(and that holds for probably all public sector stuff, not just education. If you have time, listen to this playlist of a guy [Louis Rossmann, a few of his videos have shown up here before] spending literal days trying to figure out how a lien got placed on his business by New York City, and how to resolve it only to get bounced from department to department to department because no one in the bureaucracy even understands their own systems).
That's one way to put it, even then it is worse than anyone outside the system can imagine. At the high school level (and lower) in the US, it is even worse. Thanks primarily to No Child Left Behind (from George W Bush) and also other US Department of Education policies, it is nearly (if not literally) impossible to fail someone in high school. And that is not an exaggeration. You are forbidden from giving someone below a 50% (or is it 60%, not sure) as their grade in the first quarter of the school year even if the student does absolutely no work and gets a 0 on every exam - because a lower score is too difficult for them to make up. If a student does no work all year, and comes to you with 2 weeks left and says "I want to make up all the work I did not do" you are obligated to give them make up assignments, and give them credit for those makeups. And in the unlikely event that someone does fail a class, the district gives them some remedial stuff to do over the summer and then they're considered good to go for the next year. The US educational system is literally training people that they don't need to do anything they don't want to do, then they can just whine if things will end badly and their whining will be catered to.
It wouldn't be a ban about acknowledging gays exist, just not allowing "selling" the stuff.
Whatever requirements we supposedly have aren't working. What I mean is bare-minimum stuff where you can't get a diploma if you're an illiterate retard. As a Brit Bong, I don't think you understand how bad American schools truly are. There are actual illiterate people with diplomas because the schools just rubber stamp kids who don't do their work or pass tests. That's what I want to stop.
WTF are you talking about? If you reject sexual dimorphism, people will start calling you a tranny again.
I'm not particularly concerned about sex-segregated schools. I don't think they need banning, maybe monitoring them at worst. It's racial integration that is immoral and is causing many horrible things to happen. Just let people segregate.
We both know we're not going to agree on what "based" means. That's not going to have much direct relevance to this discussion.
College sports in the US is an extremely corrupt pipeline to pro-sports and is, in many instances, already a pro-sport anyway.
You have a lot to learn about America. These have been tired, dead horse issues for my parents let alone me.
One thing on the college sports thing, they actually lifted that ban on getting paid right before COVID hit so the top college players are getting million dollar endorsement deals now.