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Utah butchers cancel "bottom surgery" program after state ends customer pipeline (archive.ph)
posted 2 years ago by bartbertbirtbortburt 2 years ago by bartbertbirtbortburt +59 / -0
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– FutaCumDiet 23 points 2 years ago +25 / -2

"If we can't turn your children into a Frankenstein monster. than we're not going to bother!"

I don't like using the whole "slippery slope" argument (largely because it's often used post hoc and ignores professional activism), but they aren't help themselves when they do shit like this.

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– Adamrises 15 points 2 years ago +15 / -0

I don't like using the whole "slippery slope" argument

Slippery slope is only a fallacy when A and B have no connection that can even be assumed to be possible. Like neutering dogs giving kids autism.

If you can make a solid argument in favor, then the slippery slope is just caution with a scary name on it to make people back down.

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– Shill4Hire 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

"Slippery slope" has another name: "Established precedent".

Observe:

"It's just a slippery slope argument that legalizing weed will lead to more people driving while high!" -> "It's just an established precedent argument that legalizing weed will lead to more people driving while high!"

"It's slippery slope argument to say that not punishing criminals will raise crime rates!" -> "It's established precedent argument to say that not punishing criminals will raise crime rates!"

The person with the curse known as "basic logic" will be called a slippery slope fallacist, because often, all the argument is, is assuming that what happens in micro scale, will happen on macro scale. Which to be fair, isn't ALWAYS true, but there's a reason studies and trial-scale operations exist: Because while not ALWAYS true, it OFTEN is.

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– NoGardE 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I like to say that the slippery slope argument is a request for a limiting principle. Take getting rid of Sodomy laws as an example.

"If we let them have sex with each other, what's going to stop them from trying to get married? And then what if they start wanting to marry teenagers to older men? And then kids?"

Reasonable libertarian: the government shouldn't be involved in discussions of marriage, nor in the sexual choices of consenting adults. Your church shouldn't be forced to acknowledge someone's claim of being married, and marriage is a religious ceremony that shouldn't even be registered with the government, let alone carry benefits. Anyone trying to involve children in sexual matters is a pedophile who deserves exile at a bare minimum. Teenagers should only be experimenting ssxually with other teenagers of a similar maturity. Anything else, pedo shit that deserves exile at a bare minimum. All of these are limiting principles.

Pedo progressive: "We aren't asking for that (mutters: yet).

And that's how you tell the difference.

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– AntonioOfVenice 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

The slippery slope was wrong only in that it underestimated the degeneration that would result.

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