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posted 3 years ago by Wizard18 3 years ago by Wizard18 +37 / -0
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– elleand202 30 points 3 years ago +30 / -0

It's amazing that bank failures are just an accepted part of regular life in 2023.

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– DefinitelyNotIGN 23 points 3 years ago +23 / -0

Hey, give them credit! It's hard to tank a company that makes money simply by existing.

Do you know how many extraneous staff they need to hire pointlessly? How many bad financing decisions need to be made? How many stupidly-offered credit rates to actuarial-table-proven bad choices? It takes EFFORT

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– DT990P 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

It’s not a crisis until mainstream news channels declare to the masses that it’s a crisis

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– Kaarous 27 points 3 years ago +27 / -0

Doing the Weimar shuffle.

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– Kaarous 14 points 3 years ago +14 / -0

doing fine

First Republic was "doing fine" two months ago. And this is not a "panic" either. It's not a socially caused problem, it's that they and many other banks are over stretched enormously beyond being able to cover their deposits, because finance these days is a hilarious shell game that doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

SVB was the first of many.

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– deleted 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0
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– Kaarous 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

I've been betting on it for a decade. I buy gold, ammo and MREs.

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– deleted 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0
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– Kaarous 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

Pretty close yes. But the point of buying gold is to have real money, not to trade it for fiat currency that is useful solely as toilet paper.

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– MargarineMongoose 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

and that will be the end of it.

Until the next one fails.

And then the one after that.

And the one after that, etc, etc.

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– Kaarous 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Also that's weird, it deleted my comment and then posted it again after I thought I had to retype it. Mobile computing is such a shit show.

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– Kaarous 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

Doing fine huh? First Republic was "doing fine" a few months ago. How many more isolated incidents have to pop up before you admit a pattern?

Oh and this isn't a "panic" either. The root issue here isn't a social one, it's that modern finance is a vampiric shell game run by self dealers. They're over stretched well past the point of being able to cover their deposits. They cannot withstand scrutiny.

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– RaisingPhoenix 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

While I'm sure the media didn't help it much, I think its problems were far more than just that

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– Kaarous 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

How do you square that with it having been First Republic that asked for the bailout? If they actually had the cash, or even the assets, they wouldn't have went running to the feds.

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– Kaarous 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

If they had the cash like they say they did, a run would not kill them. That only happens when you can't cover your deposits.

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– Kaarous 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

So they were over stretched to the point of having forty percent or less of their deposits? Boy, if I had them for a bank I'd get my money out quick.

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– MargarineMongoose 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Shouldn't a bank be able to handle a bank run?

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– SmallTimeTrader 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Under the fractional reserve system we use bank runs are always a threat because banks are inherently leveraged institutions. That is, the law allows them to buy assets (various types of loans, usually) far in excess of their reserves (your deposits). Their aim is to make money out of the difference in what interest rate they pay to depositors and the return on the assets that they buy.

However, in a bank run they need to liquidate assets quickly, but that can be a huge problem because their assets may be illiquid or may be marked down relative to what they will eventually pay out if, for example, interest rates have risen sharply. As such, a run can cause a bank which would be perfectly fine under normal circumstances to suddenly become insolvent.

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