Story is very fresh right now with several outlets blowing it up as a 'we won!' moment and AOC calling for his arrest for incitement or some shit.
He needs to do a Rubin or something similar as he was the one thing that made people even watch fox sometimes because of his anaylsis. I sense Fox's viewing figures are going to dive again...
I'm a programmer and I tell you that voting machines shouldn't exist in a fair election, paper ballots only. Even without the 'conspiracy theories' around dominion voting machines, there was plenty of proof that showed they could be accessed from outside and connect to the internet. That alone should have invalidated them as a concept but we're dealing with tech illiterate boomers who regulate this stuff.
I don't disagree with you, but you didn't refute what 0000Titan said. I've yet to see concrete, irrefutable proof of shenanigans from Dominion voting machines from a credible source.
I actually like the way the machines work in my county. Once you're done with the machine, it prints out your actual ballot in a human readable format, and you place that in the ballot box. That way you're not just trusting the machine to count your vote. And it also eliminates the ambiguity of whether a ballot has been properly marked or punched.
Credible source just means people only you agree with, I'm not playing that game and I have posted irrefutable proof, there were investigations done that showed how easily these machines could be hacked into. As far as I'm concerned that's the argument done and if you don't understand then you're just tech illiterate and have no say.
Credible source meaning better than some kook on Bitchute.
Yes, "could". Not actually did. In other words, this is just a massive cope that Le Based God Emperor just isn't that popular and actually lost the election.
Ok, buddy.
I knew you were an arse that was going to shift the goalposts the second somebody called you out.
Thank god we have so many neutral outlets with the power and authority to acquire such a thing and fairly report it to us. Its why we were able to get the absolute truth when it came to things Covid and vaccines, the 2016 recount from Jill Stein, and what the fuck Podesta was talking about.
Then unleash O'Keefe's OMG on Dominion. If he can expose Pfizer, then he can expose Dominion if there's anything actually there. You act like this is some impossible task.
What's to stop them from changing your vote later?
And how can we get irrefutable proof when they don't let anyone look?
The joke is this person immediately told me how little they know on the topic when there were investigations done into this and software people actually showed just how easy it was to get into these machines and it could be done by anyway. Worse, they could be connected to through the internet.
So they aren't just touch screens that can print out your ballot, I also love this bullshit of "Oh it's convenient for me" as if making a fucking mark on a paper with a pencil is so hard to do for the average person. It's like leftists accidentally outing themselves as racists when they ranted about how evil it was for republicans to demand photo ID.
This is by the way why I rant so much about tech illiterate boomers being a threat to to national security for any western country but really it can be any tech illiterate person generally. They do not know anything about computers or how to handle data and it is proving to be a complete disaster for the west.
Yeah I lol'd when I read that about machines being more convenient.
And definitely agree with your last paragraph. That guy above who seems to think that getting a printed ballot means his vote is cast in stone is exhibit A.
Because its far easier just to have a box of ballots from the preferred candidate and miraculously find them if it becomes necessary.
You seriously think that there'd be no leaks in two plus years. The powers that be couldn't even cover up COVID's origin. There's no way that they could keep it under wraps if Dominion's programmers gamed the system to make Biden win.
So no, I will not believe it until something more substantial than cope and conjecture that these machines were tampered with.
These machines were literally made for the sole purpose of rigging elections. Testimony before US Congress after the 2000 election was that they can fix any election 49-51% in either direction and you'd never be able to tell unless every ballot was paper and counted by hand.
That means that NO machine can be used, and counting by hand is essential.
It doesn't get simpler. There is no reason for any exception. Lock the door after polls close, and count until done. Precincts are designed so this is possible. You can have a fresh crew come in say a half hour before polls close to count until they're done. An observer from each major party to make sure every vote is legit.
HONEST.
Totals from each precinct can be added and double checked by anybody. 0 problems. 0 need for anything else. 0 excuse for anything else.
You're not responding to the actual comment, it's not about whether the exact trump election was influenced, it's that it only takes a tiny number of people - as few as just 1 person in the right place - to completely change the entire countries election results with a computer.
But why?
In Poland they just give you a paper and you go to a booth-desk where there's a pen.
Also they count the votes the very next night. You have preliminary result just after midnight.
Because there's been fighting over pen marked ballots, like in Arizona. For example, ballots being tossed because they used ball point instead of felt tip. Ballots that were blank, but supposedly had an impression in the spot to mark a vote for a particular candidate (usually the Dem conveniently), so it's counted for that candidate. Some votes that are rejected because only half the bubble was filled in (usually the Republican). A machine printed paper ballot eliminates the ambiguity of what the voter meant without having the machine count it and just assume that its right without any verification.
Yes you are. The machine counts them. People only do under specific circumstances. That's the whole problem.
Every modern presidential election is hand counted after the auto-tabulator does its thing, including the one that Trump lost.
What you're talking about is irrelevant. Most jurisdictions are counting ineligible ballots. Many are not paper.
That's backwards. The people running the elections have to be able to prove to us that it was legit. The burden of proof is on them. They are ones making the claim that it was secure. The fact that they keep playing it off as conspiracy theories and distracting from the issue instead of just easily showing us the receipts to say "here is the proof we're secure" and eliminating all doubt, thereby proving us to be the fools they claim we are, tells me EVERYTHING I need to know about the kind of banana republic bullshit that is going on. About 10 years ago, the BBC released an article about election tampering in third world countries and the signs you need to watch out for. The 2020 presidential election had ALL of those signs.
They used those machines in my state when they originally introduced voting machines. Once we 'accepted' them, they swapped them all out for the ones that don't print paper receipts and told us they were basically the same thing, that we already excepted this, and to quit complaining.
the original machines printed your votes onto two receipts, one stayed in the machine, but went past a clear window so you could verify your votes, and the other was printed out to you to take home. The receipt that stayed with the machine had an anonymous random number that matched the printed take home receipt so you could type it into a website and verify your vote was counted.
The new website only informs you that the outer envelope was received, there is no way to verify the vote count any more.
No, that's something else. This machine prints your actual ballot, not some receipt proof-of-vote thing.
no. You are wrong. on the machines we used, the receipt that printed into the machine was the actually legal ballot. the scanners they had at the time could scan the machine ballots (reel of internal receipts) or mailed paper ballots and combine the totals.
people like you made assumptions and complained giving them the excuse to replace the system that was in use with another one that was actually less secure and more open to fraud that uses print on demand ballots for the machines now, which have caused lots of controversy, but it is what we are currently stuck with.