Nope. I don't have any of the characteristics of a "neocon". I know in your mind, you are using "neocon" to mean "American nationalist", which I am, but that's not what "neocon" actually means.
You are incorrect about that. I am a nationalist, but that does not require you to approve of everything that criminal regime does. "My country right or wrong" is not nationalism, it is just retardation.
I've also outright attacked Neocons as having divided loyalties and being motivated by furthering the interests of Israel at the expensive of the United States, particularly where almost all the prominent neocons were zionist jews.
And yet your opinions on Malorussiya are 100% consistent with the opinions of David Frum, David French, and the rest of the neocon bunch, and trying to pander to anti-Jewish sentiment on this sub does not erase that.
See, it's not an ETHNOSTATE! Black cocktails are as welcome as white vodka.
Seriously, it's crazy how Americans try to persuade themselves that everyone who disagrees with them is white / Russian / whatever. Tell me how you are different from the left. The American left and right are often two groups of loudmouths who pretend to hate each other while being either identical or mirror images of each other.
And yet your opinions on Malorussiya are 100% consistent with the opinions of David Frum, David French, and the rest of the neocon bunch, and trying to pander to anti-Jewish sentiment on this sub does not erase that.
Your argument is that just because I'm against Russia, and these other people are against Russia, that means I am in 100% agreement with them on every other issue, which is laughably wrong and anyone familiar with my comments/posts and those leftist clowns would know.
A plurality/majority of American conservatives support Ukraine. That doesn't make them "neocons".
Your argument is that just because I'm against Russia, and these other people are against Russia, that means I am in 100% agreement with them on every other issue
The same argument you make about other people and their alleged affiliation with the FSB, even though I have no idea what their opinion is on this conflict, and I don't think you do either. Apparently, you don't think they will do anything if Putin gives up Russian territory, so they have no opinions at all.
which is laughably wrong and anyone familiar with my comments/posts and those leftist clowns would know.
I'll say one thing, while you say that you argued against the destruction of Yugoslavia in college, you also made some pretty bizarre claims about Yugoslavia "invading Kosovo" like you did about Russia "invading Chechnya".
A plurality/majority of American conservatives support Ukraine. That doesn't make them "neocons".
No, it makes them stupid. The same people who have been 'fighting' for decades, who have conserved absolutely nothing except for the profits of Goldman Sachs, and who now have their kids groomed in schools. They don't realize that their enemies are their own politicians, not BAD RUSSIAN MAN.
I'll say one thing, while you say that you argued against the destruction of Yugoslavia in college, you also made some pretty bizarre claims about Yugoslavia "invading Kosovo" like you did about Russia "invading Chechnya".
You mean like your claims about Ukraine attacking or invading Donbas when it was part of Ukrainian's internationally recognized territory?
You have a problem with "Serbia invaded Kosovo" because you think this is inconsistent with Kosovo being part of Serbia (it's not, and it was always recognized as being a separate place even if occupied). I could care less about your semantics. As far as I am concerned, a country can invade a smaller part of itself. In the US civil war, the US invaded the Confederacy, even though "but muh the South was still part of the US, a country can't invade itself!!!" nonsense. If Florida declared independence and Joe Biden sent in 50k troops, it would be "the US invades Florida" all over the headlines.
Also, I was not only opposed to the US helping the EU bully Serbia, I was also opposed to the US helping the EU bully Libya and Syria.
However I'm consistent: I was ALSO against RUSSIA bullying Georgia, and later Ukraine. (I didn't really care about Russia stomping on Chechnya because even though the terrorism was somewhat exaggerated, there was still a terrorism issue) So I'm consistent, you're not. You like it when Russia bullies and make excuses for them, but then you reeeee any time the US guns come out, even when it is internationally popular and supported by a broad coalition.
They don't realize that their enemies are their own politicians, not BAD RUSSIAN MAN.
It can be both. We can handle our domestic enemies our own way. We don't need a foreigner telling us how to handle it.
You mean like your claims about Ukraine attacking or invading Donbas when it was part of Ukrainian's internationally recognized territory?
"Internationally recognized" = "the coalition of the bribed and the coerced says so".
Serbia has every right to Kosvo, Russia has every right to Chechnya, 'Ukraine' (since it is not a country) has no right to the Donbas.
But the USG supports every sort of aggression and war crime by your allies, from Saddam's use of chemical weapons in the 80s (THAT WAS LIKE FOUR DAYS AGO), to Ukraine's depredations in the Donbas.
You have a problem with "Serbia invaded Kosovo" because you think this is inconsistent with Kosovo being part of Serbia (it's not, and it was always recognized as being a separate place even if occupied).
Your excuse-making is really ridiculous and weak. As if the Donbas is not "recognized as a separate place". Yet you supports its invasion and destruction because your government told you to support it.
As far as I am concerned, a country can invade a smaller part of itself
Except when Ukraine was terrorizing the Donbas, which you thought was fantastic.
Also, I was not only opposed to the US helping the EU bully Serbia, I was also opposed to the US helping the EU bully Libya and Syria.
Don't try to blame this on others. This was your doing. The US controls NATO. The EU has no sovereignty or independence from the US, it is an occupied region.
And yet you tried to excuse it with "SERBIA INVADED ITS OWN COUNTRY"
I was ALSO against RUSSIA bullying Georgia
Yup, you supported Georgia invading South Ossetia and Abkhazia, because Georgia is your buddy, and you opposed Russia defending them, because your political position is "whatever the regime says".
You like it when Russia bullies
Please tell me what Russia does that you haven't done 10 or 100 times worse.
then you reeeee any time the US guns come out, even when it is internationally popular and supported by a broad coalition.
Ah right, that 'international community' that somehow only consists of your empire and vassal states.
It can be both. We can handle our domestic enemies our own way. We don't need a foreigner telling us how to handle it.
And such a great job you have done of it: conserving absolutely nothing, while blindly obeying them when they point and tell you to hate some other country.
/u/AntonioOfVenice uses "neocon" for even the European libs, it's just a meaningless insult, something alike the tankies ever screaming about Nazis everywhere. KIEV NAZI JUNTA too of course, it used to be "fascists" since the 1920s like we were the "White Polish fascists" and the German Social-Democrats were the "social fascists" or whatever they called them - the British and the Americans were just "the imperialists" tho (I honestly don't know what they called the French and I don't even remember anyone being accused-declared of being a French spy in their purges and show trials, or any anti-French posters, so I guess they just ignored France for most part?). So anyway he's a weido just like them. He's also simply very thick headed and you're wasting your time arguing anything with him if you hope to convince him after he unquestionably absorbed a really crude propaganda (I don't know why anyone should really try even). Speaking of which, that was my parting message for him on the issue: https://kotakuinaction2.win/p/16aTebfJEx/x/c/4TsYQX40PXt
"White Polish" was their stupid projection from having Red and White (and Black and some other) Russians during their civil war. They sometimes still use it today, and regard the Polish-Bolshevik war as a part of their civil war. In reality the main Polish political faction at the time was the Polish Socialist Party which had participated in the 1905 Russian revolution under red flags, but still was very much "Polish" indeed, and the restoration of the independent Poland was always its main aim since its foundation. Their program was also some sort a federation-alliance with Ukraine, as well as Lithuania and Belarus and maybe even others (but of course it didn't work out):
The new opportunities that Poland saw were a result of Germany and Russia’s defeat in the First World War. Poland, seeing a geopolitical vacuum in the East, came up with three visions. The first was a recreation of the former Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth through a federation of Poland, Belarus and Lithuania (and maybe Latvia) that would be closely allied with an independent Ukraine. The second vision, called Prometheism, was the liberation of non-Russian nations. At a later stage it was also to offer support to non-communist Russian left groups. The third vision, Intermarium, foresaw co-operation among the newly independent states located between the Baltic, the Black and possibly the Adriatic Seas.
Like the Poles who participated in the invasion of Iraq? You tell Alexander Kwasniewski of Poland we're going alone!
he unquestionably absorbed a really crude propaganda
It's ironic that the people who believe everything CNN tells them to believe project their issues on people who actually do exercise critical thinking skills.
You are incorrect about that. I am a nationalist, but that does not require you to approve of everything that criminal regime does. "My country right or wrong" is not nationalism, it is just retardation.
And yet your opinions on Malorussiya are 100% consistent with the opinions of David Frum, David French, and the rest of the neocon bunch, and trying to pander to anti-Jewish sentiment on this sub does not erase that.
See, it's not an ETHNOSTATE! Black cocktails are as welcome as white vodka.
Seriously, it's crazy how Americans try to persuade themselves that everyone who disagrees with them is white / Russian / whatever. Tell me how you are different from the left. The American left and right are often two groups of loudmouths who pretend to hate each other while being either identical or mirror images of each other.
Your argument is that just because I'm against Russia, and these other people are against Russia, that means I am in 100% agreement with them on every other issue, which is laughably wrong and anyone familiar with my comments/posts and those leftist clowns would know.
A plurality/majority of American conservatives support Ukraine. That doesn't make them "neocons".
The same argument you make about other people and their alleged affiliation with the FSB, even though I have no idea what their opinion is on this conflict, and I don't think you do either. Apparently, you don't think they will do anything if Putin gives up Russian territory, so they have no opinions at all.
I'll say one thing, while you say that you argued against the destruction of Yugoslavia in college, you also made some pretty bizarre claims about Yugoslavia "invading Kosovo" like you did about Russia "invading Chechnya".
No, it makes them stupid. The same people who have been 'fighting' for decades, who have conserved absolutely nothing except for the profits of Goldman Sachs, and who now have their kids groomed in schools. They don't realize that their enemies are their own politicians, not BAD RUSSIAN MAN.
You mean like your claims about Ukraine attacking or invading Donbas when it was part of Ukrainian's internationally recognized territory?
You have a problem with "Serbia invaded Kosovo" because you think this is inconsistent with Kosovo being part of Serbia (it's not, and it was always recognized as being a separate place even if occupied). I could care less about your semantics. As far as I am concerned, a country can invade a smaller part of itself. In the US civil war, the US invaded the Confederacy, even though "but muh the South was still part of the US, a country can't invade itself!!!" nonsense. If Florida declared independence and Joe Biden sent in 50k troops, it would be "the US invades Florida" all over the headlines.
Also, I was not only opposed to the US helping the EU bully Serbia, I was also opposed to the US helping the EU bully Libya and Syria.
However I'm consistent: I was ALSO against RUSSIA bullying Georgia, and later Ukraine. (I didn't really care about Russia stomping on Chechnya because even though the terrorism was somewhat exaggerated, there was still a terrorism issue) So I'm consistent, you're not. You like it when Russia bullies and make excuses for them, but then you reeeee any time the US guns come out, even when it is internationally popular and supported by a broad coalition.
It can be both. We can handle our domestic enemies our own way. We don't need a foreigner telling us how to handle it.
"Internationally recognized" = "the coalition of the bribed and the coerced says so".
Serbia has every right to Kosvo, Russia has every right to Chechnya, 'Ukraine' (since it is not a country) has no right to the Donbas.
But the USG supports every sort of aggression and war crime by your allies, from Saddam's use of chemical weapons in the 80s (THAT WAS LIKE FOUR DAYS AGO), to Ukraine's depredations in the Donbas.
Your excuse-making is really ridiculous and weak. As if the Donbas is not "recognized as a separate place". Yet you supports its invasion and destruction because your government told you to support it.
Except when Ukraine was terrorizing the Donbas, which you thought was fantastic.
Yup, you supported Georgia invading South Ossetia and Abkhazia, because Georgia is your buddy, and you opposed Russia defending them, because your political position is "whatever the regime says".
Please tell me what Russia does that you haven't done 10 or 100 times worse.
Ah right, that 'international community' that somehow only consists of your empire and vassal states.
And such a great job you have done of it: conserving absolutely nothing, while blindly obeying them when they point and tell you to hate some other country.
/u/AntonioOfVenice uses "neocon" for even the European libs, it's just a meaningless insult, something alike the tankies ever screaming about Nazis everywhere. KIEV NAZI JUNTA too of course, it used to be "fascists" since the 1920s like we were the "White Polish fascists" and the German Social-Democrats were the "social fascists" or whatever they called them - the British and the Americans were just "the imperialists" tho (I honestly don't know what they called the French and I don't even remember anyone being accused-declared of being a French spy in their purges and show trials, or any anti-French posters, so I guess they just ignored France for most part?). So anyway he's a weido just like them. He's also simply very thick headed and you're wasting your time arguing anything with him if you hope to convince him after he unquestionably absorbed a really crude propaganda (I don't know why anyone should really try even). Speaking of which, that was my parting message for him on the issue: https://kotakuinaction2.win/p/16aTebfJEx/x/c/4TsYQX40PXt
"White Polish" was their stupid projection from having Red and White (and Black and some other) Russians during their civil war. They sometimes still use it today, and regard the Polish-Bolshevik war as a part of their civil war. In reality the main Polish political faction at the time was the Polish Socialist Party which had participated in the 1905 Russian revolution under red flags, but still was very much "Polish" indeed, and the restoration of the independent Poland was always its main aim since its foundation. Their program was also some sort a federation-alliance with Ukraine, as well as Lithuania and Belarus and maybe even others (but of course it didn't work out):
More about these 3 concepts (sometimes going even as far as the Central Asia): https://neweasterneurope.eu/2018/11/05/independence-poland-1918/
Like the Poles who participated in the invasion of Iraq? You tell Alexander Kwasniewski of Poland we're going alone!
It's ironic that the people who believe everything CNN tells them to believe project their issues on people who actually do exercise critical thinking skills.
You don't have any thinking skills you dumb faggot. So-called "Russia" broke your mind.
Go live there in the Muscovy workers paradise. Hope you get partially mobilized.