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Russia now pulling 1940s tanks - the T-54 - out of storage and sending them to Ukraine. (notes.citeam.org)
posted 2 years ago by dekachin 2 years ago by dekachin +6 / -15
From Hibernation to Humiliation? Russia Brings T-54 Tanks Out of Retirement
The CIT team has obtained photographs of a train transporting military vehicles from Russia’s Far East. We identified the vehicles...
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– AntonioOfVenice 9 points 2 years ago +11 / -2

What this war has shown me is how susceptible people are to war propaganda, particularly Westoids. They'll believe literally anything that they want to believe, and what they want to believe is what CNN told them to believe.

OP believes in Havana Syndrome and thinks that I am paid by the FSB. Other than that, he's normally rational.

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– SuurSuomi39_II 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Is this going to be another MerchantOfVenice vs ''our democracy'' dekashill? I'm already excited!

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– AntonioOfVenice 3 points 2 years ago +5 / -2

Nah, I have trouble keeping up with him as it is.

I don't think he's a shill, he's just extremely misguided and blinded.

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– Hellsbells00 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Nah, he comes here to dot win and tries saying that the 2020 election was legitimate. He's a turboshill. Nobody with a braiin who actually paid attention makes that claim honestly. The ones who argue about it are all, without fail, doing so from either MASSIVE ignorance or bad faith.

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– NoEyesNoGroin -3 points 2 years ago +2 / -5

Pretty ironic thing to say for someone who gets all his Ukraine war info from RT.

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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

You sound like some coked out Russiagater. RT is banned here by your "free, democratic" allies.

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– trump4044 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

RT is the new Fox News isn't it

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– dekachin [S] -7 points 2 years ago +2 / -9

You're responding to a post with photographic evidence.

You: "what are you gonna believe, ME, or your LYING EYES??!?!?"

OP believes in Havana Syndrome and thinks that I am paid by the FSB.

False. I have no idea whether you are paid or by whom, exactly. It's more likely that, like jannies, you're "doing it for free". All I can see is that you are behaving in a manner that is consistent with an agent of the Russian government, just like the Chinese wumaos. Chinese wumaos are mostly unpaid nationalists, even though their name is a mocking reference to the idea that they are paid shills. Some are paid. Most are not.

As for Havana Syndrome, there were initially a small number of genuine and discrete cases showing genuine brain damage consistent with microwave radiation. After that blew up in the press, every dumbfuck in the State Department with a headache decided to METOO and claim to be a victim, so there were hundreds of very obviously false and unrelated claims. They had a literal incentive to METOO: "State Department guidelines note that staff with confirmed brain injuries from the disease are eligible for over $180,000 (£150,000) each."

The fact that the hundreds of false and unrelated claims were proven to be false and unrelated, does not mean that the small number of initial cases were also false.

A 2021 review by a panel of experts convened by the intelligence community said some incidents of Havana Syndrome are most likely caused by directed energy or acoustic devices and can’t be explained by other factors. And a National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine assessment fingered directed, pulsed radio frequency energy as a possible culprit, saying that the signs and symptoms experienced by U.S. government personnel were “unlike any disorder in the neurological or general medical literature.”

Also allow me to say fuck you for trying to derail the conversation and engage in personal attacks. You are acting more and more like a wumao every day, which must mean that you know your war in Ukraine is going very badly for your side, putting you in a bad mood.

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– AntonioOfVenice 4 points 2 years ago +5 / -1

You're responding to a post with photographic evidence.

I mean, folks like you also fell for claims that Russia was using rifles from the Crimean War, because of PHOTOGRAPHIC EVIDENCE... which turned out to be a parade.

All I can see is that you are behaving in a manner that is consistent with an agent of the Russian government

Fascinating. Guy whose behavior is consistent with being an agent of the CIA, says the same of others.

Chinese wumaos are mostly unpaid nationalists

Now Russian nationalists aren't even Russians? Dude, give it a rest. Just like leftists trying to convince themselves that everyone who opposes them is white, your coping skills are uniquely American. Everyone opposing you is a RUSSIAN!

As for Havana Syndrome, there were initially a small number of genuine and discrete cases showing genuine brain damage consistent with microwave radiation.

Even the regime has had to admit that it was a total fraud.

Nevertheless, Dekachin persisted.

The fact that the hundreds of false and unrelated claims were proven to be false and unrelated, does not mean that the small number of initial cases were also false.

They recorded the SCARY RUSSIAN WEAPON FROM THE 23rd CENTURY.

Specialists pointed out that SCARY RUSSIAN WEAPON was... crickets. Literal crickets!

Also allow me to say fuck you for trying to derail the conversation and engage in personal attacks

I'll allow it. I'll also point out that it's in no way a "personal attack" to point out your gullibility in believing that CRICKETS are a Russian weapon from the 23rd century because the media told you so. It's pointing out: hey, this guy believes anything.

which must mean that you know your war in Ukraine is going very badly for your side, putting you in a bad mood.

Projection. Last years, your regime sabotaged a peace deal that would have entailed moving to the status quo ante. You're not be able to get that.

I'm quite happy, particularly with the economic effects: the decline of the dollar, the discrediting of sanctions (economic terrorism), how the entire US empire staging kamikaze attacks on the RU economy didn't do a thing, how the entire US empire sending weapons is not stopping the Russian advance.

When Russia wins, or to pander to your delusions if Russia wins, you will be blaming Biden and the "libs" for being "weak" or whatever.

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– dekachin [S] -1 points 2 years ago +3 / -4

I mean, folks like you also fell for claims that Russia was using rifles from the Crimean War, because of PHOTOGRAPHIC EVIDENCE... which turned out to be a parade.

Cool story bro, I've never heard of that because I don't get the FSB contractor morning brief, so I don't stay up to date on every little thing posted to twitter. What I DO know is that there are a bunch of photos of T-54 tanks on a train leaving the storage depot and heading to Ukraine.

Do you think they're going to Ukraine for a parade?

Guy whose behavior is consistent with being an agent of the CIA, says the same of others.

Except nobody believes that, not even you. And since you don't know how the US government works, the CIA never infiltrates forums like this, only the FBI does. It's also laughably untrue since the CIA is full of libtards and I'm very right wing. Moreso than you since you're a socialist.

Now Russian nationalists aren't even Russians?

I don't believe your claims to live in some unspecified country that totally isn't Russia. You're either an ethnic russian nationalist living abroad rooting for your ethnostate, or someone in russia itself. It makes no difference.

I don't believe you're just some random right winger with sympathies for russia. I can model how a person like that would behave, there are plenty of other examples of it even in this forum, and you're too inconsistent with it. The talking points of a russian nationalist differ from a right winger who favors russia for culture war issues, and you fall very strongly on the "russian nationalist" model in your responses, not the culture warrior.

Even the regime has had to admit that it was a total fraud.

False. Good job finding a headline that made the 3/1/23 report seem more definitive than it really was. There has never been any admission that the early few cases of genuine brain damage were "a total fraud" and it remains the assessment of the US government that those cases were likely caused by a weapon.

They recorded the SCARY RUSSIAN WEAPON FROM THE 23rd CENTURY.

No, they did not. Straw man attack. A microwave weapon would not make a sound, and thus could not be recorded.

I'll also point out that it's in no way a "personal attack" to point out your gullibility in believing that CRICKETS are a Russian weapon from the 23rd century because the media told you so. It's pointing out: hey, this guy believes anything.

You're 100% wrong about what I believe and why. you're clearly arguing in bad faith.

Last years, your regime sabotaged a peace deal that would have entailed moving to the status quo ante.

False, and quickly retracted by that Israeli dumbfuck who implied it. But as a good little propagandists, you'll repeat it forever. Yet another data point in why I believe you're a propagandist and not just a culture warrior. A culture warrior never would have cared about that, but it's highly important to a propagandist.

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– AntonioOfVenice 3 points 2 years ago +4 / -1

I've never heard of that because I don't get the FSB contractor morning brief

Not sure who you think you're owning with this sort of comment. Yourself, mostly. But self-awareness was never an American thing.

What I DO know is that there are a bunch of photos of T-54 tanks on a train leaving the storage depot and heading to Ukraine.

You are suddenly an expert on Russian train schedules now? When were those pictures taken? Where are they going? And how did you discover that?

Except nobody believes that, not even you.

I have trouble believing that you think everyone who disagrees with you is an FSB employee (sry CONTRACTOR, because you can divine someone's employment status as well as nationality), but because it's funny and makes you look ridiculous, I'll keep bringing it up.

It's also laughably untrue since the CIA is full of libtards and I'm very right wing.

You're a neocon.

I don't believe your claims to live in some unspecified country that totally isn't Russia. You're either an ethnic russian nationalist living abroad rooting for your ethnostate, or someone in russia itself. It makes no difference.

LOL! This is phenomenal! A while back, you claimed that I supposedly defend blacks because I am "darker-skinned". Now I'm a Russian.

YES, THERE ARE DARKER-SKINNED RUSSIANS, AND YOU ARE ONE! LIKE PUSHKIN, BUT WITHOUT TALENT! Oh, and Russia is still an ethnostate! I found out about it while studying Russina trains schedules.

I can model how a person like that would behave, there are plenty of other examples of it even in this forum, and you're too inconsistent with it.

Show me your model, Greta.

The talking points of a russian nationalist differ from a right winger who favors russia for culture war issues, and you fall very strongly on the "russian nationalist" model in your responses, not the culture warrior.

And leftists from your shithole were equally certain that there is no way that I'm not white, because... anyone who disagrees with them is white. This is embarrassing, but very funny.

There has never been any admission that the early few cases of genuine brain damage were "a total fraud" and it remains the assessment of the US government that those cases were likely caused by a weapon.

OH WOW, the US GOVERNMENT! I thought you were going to cite an entity with little credibility, not one that has credibility coming out of its wazoo like the US GOVERNMENT!

No, they did not. Straw man attack. A microwave weapon would not make a sound, and thus could not be recorded.

They literally recorded crickets and said that this was the weapon from the 23rd century that definitely damaged their brains.

You're 100% wrong about what I believe and why. you're clearly arguing in bad faith.

Even on this very thread, I'm defending you against accusations that you are a "shill". Because I don't think you are. A deranged neocon (at least on some issues), yes. A shill, no... even as you make accusations that you must know you are false. But you have a persecution complex.

False, and quickly retracted by that Israeli dumbfuck who implied it.

The "dumbfuck" being the Prime Minister of Israel? A guy who actually tried to make peace, rather than sabotage it like the imperials did?

culture warrior never would have cared about that

A culture warrior would never care about peace.

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