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This shit is scary. People don't know what's going to hit them. (media.scored.co)
posted 3 years ago by user20461 3 years ago by user20461 +82 / -0
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– Kaarous 24 points 3 years ago +24 / -0

No, they aren't. I work with copious robotics and they're dumber than shit. Purely digital products are a lot easier for a machine.

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– Kaarous 29 points 3 years ago +29 / -0

I'm not talking about quality. I'm talking about work stoppages because robots aren't reliable without humans running and maintaining them. Training positional motors alone is a full time job.

Robots are not as advanced as you think they are, full stop.

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– GimmeFuelGimmeFire 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

And the people with the capacity to maintain these robots will not exist in the very near future (retirements, vaxxine holocaust, fired for diversity).

What we need to worry about is when the machines can maintain themselves.

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– Kaarous 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

Oh the knowledge gap in tech is very real, that's for certain. Thanks to the traitor politicians and encouraging outsourcing, there has been a dearth of training in many industries for decades. Why bother training a real American and pay him well, when you can stick a script in front of some monkey from Pakistan and get the job done 75% as well for 10% of the cost?

Time to pay the piper on that one.

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– almond_activator 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

What we need to worry about is when the machines can maintain themselves.

Won't happen, at least not any time soon.

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– Kaarous 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

That adage means absolutely nothing with regards to the feasibility or workability of an idea.

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– Gizortnik 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

People pay $75 because that's how much money they have left after being captured by debt based systems, and because $500 is harder for them to get to because saving money is explicitly disincentivized.

Boomers, who adopted the Keynsian system that did this to them, have been complaining almost their entire lives that that "they just don't build them like they used to", and that's true because if you want the equivalent of a $300 vacuum cleaner in 1975, you'd be paying $2,000 for it now.

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– Assassin47 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Didn't Keynesianism become the standard well before the boomers?

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– Gizortnik 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

who adopted the Keynsian system

It was basically invented by The Greatest Generation's Fabian Socialist class. Same people who thought Fascism was a really interesting idea.

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– HallucinatoryBeing 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

You can buy a German-made Sebo Dart for $600.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Sure, fine, my point remains.

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– DemolitionsPanda 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

I know a team that can literally solve this problem. They are currently working on other things, but they exist as a team working in the robotics field.

There is an intermediary step which can turn robotics applications into a purely software product. Once you can do that, you can close the loop and have AI write then test robotics applications. After that it is just a matter of clever neural networks and iteration.

You are going to have to break down robotics operations into smaller, more specific parts for the AI to do; but this has been a concept in software engineering since day 1. The above post just did that with micro-services for his app.

This technology will give a workshop worth 1/2 a million dollars access to the same economies of scale as a million dollar production line. The workshop will be able to apply those manufacturing force multipliers to a hundred products, not one single product rolling off the million dollar production line.

If it plays out the way I imagine, it will be a manufacturing revolution which will shift productivity and the gains of that value down the food chain from billionaires to millionaires. Twelve motivated twenty year olds could design and launch a product that has hardware literally better than the flagship iPhone. They could manufacture hundreds of units for the same unit prices that apple is manufacturing tens of thousands. We could see a market place with a thousand models of flagship phones.

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– Kaarous 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

intermediary step

Okay, and what is it?

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– DemolitionsPanda 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Simulation. Specifically a high resolution simulation in a physics engine.

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– Kaarous 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Okay. That doesn't address my point in any way. Positional motors for example, still have to be taught and calibrated in meat space, because even fractions of a millimeter can be disastrous in a factory setting.

I'm not talking product quality here either, I'm talking buildings burning down and production lines halted.

Having a pretty VR interface for some remote worker somewhere does nothing to change that.

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