Spotted the Atheist
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Religiosity, or lack thereof, has absolutely no bearing on a propensity towards hedonism.
Research a little deeper into the annals of history, look at what were considered legitimate religious practices back in the day. For every communist, there was an inquisition. For every troon, there was a priest sacrificing children to appease their god. For every feminist, there was a cult taking women for "comfort". For every mind-rotted luhgehbetehqueh-er, there was a mind-rotted fundamentalist.
Religion is not morality. Religion is religion, and it insists on being morality through threats of violence and torture for disobedience.
This is quite easily the stupidest thing I’ve ever seen. You can see a direct correlation between hedonism and the loss of religious faith in EVERY western society, especially from German Desconstructionism and the advent of non-secularism.
Here comes the conflation between religion and empire!
Oh boy, it’s like atheists are a one note band! Your dear “inquisitions” were often based on ethnic and territorial disputes for example the Moors in Spain lead to the Spanish Inquisition as a means to deter the subjugation of Spaniards and establish a more powerful empire as a result. The entire conflation of every religion with pagan hedonism is also quite hilarious as once again you are making the case that the advancement of religion is somehow separate from the advancement of society.
Make the atheistic morality case for not killing other humans. Western civilization and the current advancement of the entire human history was dependent on the morality laid out in the Bible.
You realize your favorite flavor of god-bothering isn't the end-all be-all definition of religion in human history, right?
Guess not.
Nigger please. You don't have any religious argument against murder except that your absolute monarch said "don't do it", on threat of infinite torture and suffering in hell. To call that a moral argument is the height of retardation.
There's a very simple humanistic reason not to murder tribemates, and it's in line with the naturalist argument: random murder of in-group members hurts both your own, and your tribal units (be that the family, the extended family, or the entire tribe) ability to survive. Loss of skills and knowledge, less hands to do work, animosity from other tribe members (since great apes are generally social species), etc.
No gods required. Not randomly murdering is literally in your own interest.
Oh, and before I forget, "killing humans" is such a fucktarded attempt at a gotcha. Ever single godbothering novelization, especially the judeo-christian sects you are so fond of, are absolutely riddled with "and then god said 'kill those guys over there' or "and then god killed those guys over there" or "and then god said 'kill those guys over there while I kill these guys over here'". Your own texts only prohibit unlawful killing, and it tickles me fucking pink that your own god forgot to firmly define murder vs not murder for all circumstances. Weird slip-up for an all-knowing, all-doing critter, innit?
Cute, can you try making an actual argument other than something shares a small identification marker with another therefore they must be the same. You realize under your horrendously flawed logic your atheism has more in common with every religion historically than Christianity does?
Great argument! You really showed that hedonism has no correlation with atheism!
This is hilariously flawed logic that has never tracked in human history, just as you said “tribe mates” might not kill each other in a very small setting due to survival need, now make that case in a New York sized city, or people of another “tribe”. Your naturalist argument actually dictates that the inherent murder of anyone not of your culture/ ethnicity is necessary to maintain your own “tribes” advancement and proliferation.
It’s not a “gotcha” it’s the harsh reality of humanity without a religion. You can plug your ears and obfuscate all you want it doesn’t stop the fact you are the equivalent of the babbling retard screaming “not real communism”.