Anyone else fear they will try to ban homeschooling in the U.S.? Or somehow ban private/religious schools in the name of “equity”? It amazes me how many people still think that more funding is the solution
Here in the Puget Sound there is hand-wringing galore about the plummet in student numbers, school closings, and consequent reduced school district funding - What could possibly be the cause?? they cry. It's on the news all the time.
No one ever mentions the state mandated K-12 Critical Race Theory curriculum, the K-12 mandated sex education, and the state sanctioned and funded sex change operations for minors. Nope, that never enters the conversation so that can't be it ...
The delusion of the lefties is impermeable, they refuse to even peek at the truth, they will find every other excuse under the sun to blame their own failures besides themselves - it can't be!
Washington used to be a pretty red state at one point right? No surprise that parents are taking their kids out of school. Mandating that garbage should open their eyes to the fact people don’t want it but it never does
All of those public school requirements were imposed by the state legislature in 2020 during the covid lockdowns when the Washington statehouse was surrounded by anti-public fencing, the state national guard, and carried out in legislative zoom meetings.
I was waiting for someone to mention Dino Rossi. What happened to him was the sign the Left needed to try it at every turn they could get.
Anything east of the cascades is ignoring half the mandates sent to them. The sheriff in Spokane literally said no one would enforce stuff from the emperor. The problem is how many they are forced to abide by.
The delusion of the lefties is impermeable, they refuse to even peek at the truth, they will find every other excuse under the sun to blame their own failures besides themselves - it can't be!
It is NOT delusion. They know what they are doing and they are doing it on purpose.
I couldn't tell ya details off the top of my head. It's been years since I was reading my parent's homeschooling magazines. But I remember all kinds of stories about targeted "wellness checks" and other kinds of "We just want to make sure the kids are being raised to OUR standards" bureaucratic bullcrap designed to hamstring parents who wouldn't dance to the government's fiddle.
That's the goal, but the advantage of our system is that education is a state and local issue for the most part. Uncle Sam's main source of leverage is federal funding, so private and religious schools don't have to play along with federal bullshit if they get their money elsewhere (like tuition). Wokies would have to go state by state to abolish alternatives to their grooming camps, and plenty of red states will tell them to fuck off.
They are going to slip up at some point, and they are going to criminalize the wrong thing. And then things will get bloody. The metrics by which education are judged have never improved once since the inception of the Department of Education. You cannot force people to attend failing institutions.
Say hypothetically a family that lived outside a major city had children at home and just...decided to not file for a birth certificate or SSN or anything like that. Raised the children at home. How would the government ever find out that child existed?
We assume you would need one for something like a driver's license, but what if you never got one and just drove anyway? You only really need a license if you get pulled over, but what are the odds you get pulled over if you live in the middle of nowhere? And what happens if you do? If it's just a fine, what if you just pay the fine every X years you actually get pulled over for something?
Lot of parts of the country where someone could possibly do that and get away with it.
Exactly. Illegals operate outside of a de jure system that is hostile to them. The right claims that the system is hostile to them but still thinks in terms of operating within that system.
The illegals are operating more rationally than the people on the right who believe this. And they have a parallel support system already in place. And using it would sap resources from your enemies.
I'm not entirely sure how they'd enforce a homeschooling ban though, as unlike lockdowns where they can just "arrest/fine people on the street" much like gun control it'd take too much manpower and effort to go to every single non-compliance. Plus there's the whole thing about what defines schooling/teaching (if I show a kid how to tie a shoe for example, would that violate it too?), creating a lot of weird loopholes.
Truancy laws already exist, and that's how they'd go about it. By making public education the only option, thereby mandatory, then hitting you with truancy violations. At that point, they don't need to define anything. Just a straight computer check of "if X child is old enough, are they enrolled and have they missed more than Y amount of days." Everything else wouldn't count and leave you in violation.
And I can speak from experience that cops love to go cowboy and turn a simple 30 day civil violation arrest into a dramatic raid and dragged out spectacle. Which would unfortunately break a lot of people into compliance.
The law would be (as it is in many states already) that your child must be enrolled in schooling, and they would disqualify any home education as schooling.
Enrolled and attending is an entirely different issue though. Many trade schools for example, at least in canada, ignore any semblance of high school stuff for participation (so for example right now there are 2 people in this apprenticeship with me who dropped out of high school and were still able to apply for this). There's also the whole issue of school ranges, zones and disabilities. Let's say your kid is in a wheelchair and is 30mins away from the nearest school, and they refuse to send buses to the area for said schools as your kid is the furthest away. How could they enforce it then?
Home schooling is constitutionally protected and it's doubtful we're quite to the point where they'll challenge that nationally. There's already too much pushback on tranny shit. Now on a state level I'm sure they'll try it
Anyone else fear they will try to ban homeschooling in the U.S.? Or somehow ban private/religious schools in the name of “equity”? It amazes me how many people still think that more funding is the solution
Here in the Puget Sound there is hand-wringing galore about the plummet in student numbers, school closings, and consequent reduced school district funding - What could possibly be the cause?? they cry. It's on the news all the time.
No one ever mentions the state mandated K-12 Critical Race Theory curriculum, the K-12 mandated sex education, and the state sanctioned and funded sex change operations for minors. Nope, that never enters the conversation so that can't be it ...
The delusion of the lefties is impermeable, they refuse to even peek at the truth, they will find every other excuse under the sun to blame their own failures besides themselves - it can't be!
Washington used to be a pretty red state at one point right? No surprise that parents are taking their kids out of school. Mandating that garbage should open their eyes to the fact people don’t want it but it never does
All of those public school requirements were imposed by the state legislature in 2020 during the covid lockdowns when the Washington statehouse was surrounded by anti-public fencing, the state national guard, and carried out in legislative zoom meetings.
The 2020 coof was a coup on a national scale.
I was waiting for someone to mention Dino Rossi. What happened to him was the sign the Left needed to try it at every turn they could get.
Anything east of the cascades is ignoring half the mandates sent to them. The sheriff in Spokane literally said no one would enforce stuff from the emperor. The problem is how many they are forced to abide by.
It is NOT delusion. They know what they are doing and they are doing it on purpose.
Pride Month in Seattle was a canary in the coal mine.
As someone who was raised Homeschooled, they've been gunning at us for decades now. The ACLU has been Homeschool Enemy #1 for ages.
What grounds do they use against y’all?
I couldn't tell ya details off the top of my head. It's been years since I was reading my parent's homeschooling magazines. But I remember all kinds of stories about targeted "wellness checks" and other kinds of "We just want to make sure the kids are being raised to OUR standards" bureaucratic bullcrap designed to hamstring parents who wouldn't dance to the government's fiddle.
Online school was treated the same and has been limping along for decades because of it.
That's the goal, but the advantage of our system is that education is a state and local issue for the most part. Uncle Sam's main source of leverage is federal funding, so private and religious schools don't have to play along with federal bullshit if they get their money elsewhere (like tuition). Wokies would have to go state by state to abolish alternatives to their grooming camps, and plenty of red states will tell them to fuck off.
Good point. My brother and sister in law have done a mixture of home schooling/Christian school for their girls and the results are amazing.
They are going to slip up at some point, and they are going to criminalize the wrong thing. And then things will get bloody. The metrics by which education are judged have never improved once since the inception of the Department of Education. You cannot force people to attend failing institutions.
Fucking with people’s children is the line in the sand for most parents, so home schooling may be it.
AS IT FUCKING SHOULD BE.
It's only a matter of time.
Say hypothetically a family that lived outside a major city had children at home and just...decided to not file for a birth certificate or SSN or anything like that. Raised the children at home. How would the government ever find out that child existed?
We assume you would need one for something like a driver's license, but what if you never got one and just drove anyway? You only really need a license if you get pulled over, but what are the odds you get pulled over if you live in the middle of nowhere? And what happens if you do? If it's just a fine, what if you just pay the fine every X years you actually get pulled over for something?
Lot of parts of the country where someone could possibly do that and get away with it.
Exactly. Illegals operate outside of a de jure system that is hostile to them. The right claims that the system is hostile to them but still thinks in terms of operating within that system.
The illegals are operating more rationally than the people on the right who believe this. And they have a parallel support system already in place. And using it would sap resources from your enemies.
The gig would be up the first time your kid ever needed a hospital.
They'd narc to CPS as soon as they couldn't find any records of them in the system.
I'm not entirely sure how they'd enforce a homeschooling ban though, as unlike lockdowns where they can just "arrest/fine people on the street" much like gun control it'd take too much manpower and effort to go to every single non-compliance. Plus there's the whole thing about what defines schooling/teaching (if I show a kid how to tie a shoe for example, would that violate it too?), creating a lot of weird loopholes.
Truancy laws already exist, and that's how they'd go about it. By making public education the only option, thereby mandatory, then hitting you with truancy violations. At that point, they don't need to define anything. Just a straight computer check of "if X child is old enough, are they enrolled and have they missed more than Y amount of days." Everything else wouldn't count and leave you in violation.
And I can speak from experience that cops love to go cowboy and turn a simple 30 day civil violation arrest into a dramatic raid and dragged out spectacle. Which would unfortunately break a lot of people into compliance.
The law would be (as it is in many states already) that your child must be enrolled in schooling, and they would disqualify any home education as schooling.
Enrolled and attending is an entirely different issue though. Many trade schools for example, at least in canada, ignore any semblance of high school stuff for participation (so for example right now there are 2 people in this apprenticeship with me who dropped out of high school and were still able to apply for this). There's also the whole issue of school ranges, zones and disabilities. Let's say your kid is in a wheelchair and is 30mins away from the nearest school, and they refuse to send buses to the area for said schools as your kid is the furthest away. How could they enforce it then?
Good point. I know homeschooling is looked down upon and I’ve heard some leftists express the desire that all kids be forced into public schools
Home schooling is constitutionally protected and it's doubtful we're quite to the point where they'll challenge that nationally. There's already too much pushback on tranny shit. Now on a state level I'm sure they'll try it