and it certainly wouldn't apply to a modern society that's been undergoing enormous changes for the last few hundred years
See, there is absolutely a debate that could be had about this. Have technological advancement, scientific advancements, etc rendered systems that had worked in the past as something that might not work now? Its certainly something worth discussing; we shouldn't assume the answer is no.
But,
Trad larping isn't how humanity operated for entirety of human history
This is probably where you lose the vast majority of readers. I guarantee this statement has much more to do with whatever very limited-in-scope definition you are attributing to the term "trad larping" than it has to do with the notion that humans didn't exist within more traditional frameworks throughout most of history.
Correct. He's behaving like an absolute faggot who doesn't want to face the fact that a return to male and female roles is in fact the solution. I don't know why someone in this sphere would take issue with that notion, but here we are.
I guarantee this statement has much more to do with whatever very limited-in-scope definition you are attributing to the term "trad larping" than it has to do with the notion that humans didn't exist within more traditional frameworks throughout most of history.
Confirming my suspicions that this is what is going on here. You are the one who brought up things like nuclear family. Hell, even the notion of male breadwinners and female homemakers that you keep reeing at is a much more broad concept than the version that has existed in the past couple centuries that you seem to take issue with. People make nods to these very broad concepts and you interpret them as being very specific iterations of said concepts because the second the word "traditional" comes up your mind goes to whatever some Wikipedia page or some dictionary claims traditionalism is, despite no one here using the word with such a limited scope.
Of course, this is saying nothing about whether these specific iterations of these concepts are good or bad, I have no desire to get into that. Its just I've seen you go through this with people multiple times now, and while your different takes on things certainly causes some of the disconnect, a lot of it is simply rooted in your very rigid interpretation of various terms that just aren't shared by most people.
Its a shame because while I disagree sometimes, your perspective adds a lot to this board and I think while remedying this disconnect might not remedy the differences in this specific instance, it would certainly lead to a more productive discussion.
"Guys, the solution totally isn't to just go back to the arrangement that's worked for the entirety of human history."
Are you having an aneurysm?
See, there is absolutely a debate that could be had about this. Have technological advancement, scientific advancements, etc rendered systems that had worked in the past as something that might not work now? Its certainly something worth discussing; we shouldn't assume the answer is no.
But,
This is probably where you lose the vast majority of readers. I guarantee this statement has much more to do with whatever very limited-in-scope definition you are attributing to the term "trad larping" than it has to do with the notion that humans didn't exist within more traditional frameworks throughout most of history.
Correct. He's behaving like an absolute faggot who doesn't want to face the fact that a return to male and female roles is in fact the solution. I don't know why someone in this sphere would take issue with that notion, but here we are.
Confirming my suspicions that this is what is going on here. You are the one who brought up things like nuclear family. Hell, even the notion of male breadwinners and female homemakers that you keep reeing at is a much more broad concept than the version that has existed in the past couple centuries that you seem to take issue with. People make nods to these very broad concepts and you interpret them as being very specific iterations of said concepts because the second the word "traditional" comes up your mind goes to whatever some Wikipedia page or some dictionary claims traditionalism is, despite no one here using the word with such a limited scope.
Of course, this is saying nothing about whether these specific iterations of these concepts are good or bad, I have no desire to get into that. Its just I've seen you go through this with people multiple times now, and while your different takes on things certainly causes some of the disconnect, a lot of it is simply rooted in your very rigid interpretation of various terms that just aren't shared by most people.
Its a shame because while I disagree sometimes, your perspective adds a lot to this board and I think while remedying this disconnect might not remedy the differences in this specific instance, it would certainly lead to a more productive discussion.