Nobody likes female protagonists. They're more forced than...well, everything else women "succeed" in.
For everyone who goes after me on this - ask women if they'd like men to write their disturbing romance novels. Ask women if they'd like their creepy Hallmark movies written to appeal to men.
Why do we have to give up everything to people who have given us nothing but disdain? Get out of our spaces, the terms of engagement have changed.
Good women, if they exist, and if they are mad at this, take it up with your sisters.
Lara Croft was beloved. Granted, she was pure coombait, but still. I feel like there is a place for female protagonists so long as they’re well written. Frey would be an annoying cunt even if she was a man.
Terra! People liked Terra in Final Fantasy 3.
Square didn't originally create Lara Croft in the first place, so I wouldn't have attributed her to them anyway even if at some point the Square/Enix conglomerate bought up the IP.
In 1994, in an incredibly short-sighted decision, Final Fantasy VI was released in the USA as "Final Fantasy III" because it was the third game to actually get released here.
This was before the internet--we couldn't easily look up that there were three other games in Japan at this point.
That one decision created decades of misunderstandings.
Square said "screw it" and called Final Fantasy VII by that name worldwide, to end this.
EDIT: Final Fantasy IV was previously released here as "Final Fantasy II" as well. Its translation was so poorly received (aside from one infamous line) that it led to Square looking elsewhere for localization help, which resulted in them hiring Ted Woolsey.
I think in the current political climate, you can't have a female protagonist without it being a tacit endorsement of women's hostility towards men, particularly in games, where they've been very open with said hostility.
GTA VI will prove it. They can write it as well as they want, but people don't want it - the question is, will they still buy for access to GTA:Online, a mode that has been out for nearly a decade.
Notice you had to go back 23 fucking years, I.E to when feminism was still dormant, slowly seizing power positions while pretending they just wanted to be equal?
Like I said, the current political climate makes a female protagonist a statement of tacit support for the hatred women are widely spreading towards men.
I don't think it's incorrect. Did anyone give a shit about feminism in the 2000s or even the 90s?
The 80s was the tradcon-radfem alliance that both sides deny ever existed. After that, feminism slipped into the shadows, with a normalized image and an opportunity to slowly build power.
The 90s was the Tipper Gore circlejerk about violent games.
The 00s didn't openly involve women in much, it was all about the War on Terror™.
The 2010s were all about gays, up until Trump got elected, when women stepped back into a position of influence to rant against the fact that they hadn't cruised to victory in 2016. They had been mostly silent because they believed they had won. Everything that they wanted would have come to pass. They seized the power they needed, they were ready to crown their queen.
The last few years have been them constantly in a state of lashing out and using every dirty tactic they can think of to try and make sure nobody gets uppity enough to reject their power next time.
I've pointed this out many times, but the strong, ass-kicking hottie is a male appealing trope. Women do not want or care about such games. The only problem with Forspoken (besides the crappy, derivative gameplay and empty, pointless checklist world) is that the lead is ugly and abrasive. If she wore suggestive clothing and acted like a ditzy waifu it'd be weeb GOTY (see: Ryza)
There's been a strong, directed push in gaming right around the development of Dragon Age Inquisition to essentially take away all eye candy from men. Fat ugly stupid bitches don't want low-status gamer betas to have any access to women above their level, not even fictional ones.
Unironically the fault of Sensitive Joss Whedon more than anyone.
Buffy is the obvious example but there's also River from Firefly/Serenity as well as several characters from Dollhouse - all of which used the same stable of actors as well as included Joss' fetish for barefooted young women.
Nobody likes female protagonists. They're more forced than...well, everything else women "succeed" in.
For everyone who goes after me on this - ask women if they'd like men to write their disturbing romance novels. Ask women if they'd like their creepy Hallmark movies written to appeal to men.
Why do we have to give up everything to people who have given us nothing but disdain? Get out of our spaces, the terms of engagement have changed.
Good women, if they exist, and if they are mad at this, take it up with your sisters.
Lara Croft was beloved. Granted, she was pure coombait, but still. I feel like there is a place for female protagonists so long as they’re well written. Frey would be an annoying cunt even if she was a man. Terra! People liked Terra in Final Fantasy 3.
Particularly amusing because Square has an entire history of having female protagonists and antagonists that people liked.
Square doesn't own Lara Croft anymore, didn't they sell it to Embracer Group?
Oh yeah nobody like Tifa or Aerith.
Square didn't originally create Lara Croft in the first place, so I wouldn't have attributed her to them anyway even if at some point the Square/Enix conglomerate bought up the IP.
Can't believe there are still people who call it 3 because of that short-sighted decision in 1994...
Whatever, nerd.
It's been 6 in the US since the release of Final Fantasy Anthology in 1999.
3 is the one with the Onion Knights. It even got a damn good remake on the DS.
We need to avoid confusion.
What website do you think you're on?
Can someone explain what he's talking about?
In 1994, in an incredibly short-sighted decision, Final Fantasy VI was released in the USA as "Final Fantasy III" because it was the third game to actually get released here.
This was before the internet--we couldn't easily look up that there were three other games in Japan at this point.
That one decision created decades of misunderstandings.
Square said "screw it" and called Final Fantasy VII by that name worldwide, to end this.
EDIT: Final Fantasy IV was previously released here as "Final Fantasy II" as well. Its translation was so poorly received (aside from one infamous line) that it led to Square looking elsewhere for localization help, which resulted in them hiring Ted Woolsey.
I think in the current political climate, you can't have a female protagonist without it being a tacit endorsement of women's hostility towards men, particularly in games, where they've been very open with said hostility.
GTA VI will prove it. They can write it as well as they want, but people don't want it - the question is, will they still buy for access to GTA:Online, a mode that has been out for nearly a decade.
Samus Aran (1986), Lara Croft (1996), and Joanna Dark (2000) say otherwise.
Notice you had to go back 23 fucking years, I.E to when feminism was still dormant, slowly seizing power positions while pretending they just wanted to be equal?
Like I said, the current political climate makes a female protagonist a statement of tacit support for the hatred women are widely spreading towards men.
The 80s...
Dormant Feminism....
I don't think it's incorrect. Did anyone give a shit about feminism in the 2000s or even the 90s?
The 80s was the tradcon-radfem alliance that both sides deny ever existed. After that, feminism slipped into the shadows, with a normalized image and an opportunity to slowly build power.
The 90s was the Tipper Gore circlejerk about violent games.
The 00s didn't openly involve women in much, it was all about the War on Terror™.
The 2010s were all about gays, up until Trump got elected, when women stepped back into a position of influence to rant against the fact that they hadn't cruised to victory in 2016. They had been mostly silent because they believed they had won. Everything that they wanted would have come to pass. They seized the power they needed, they were ready to crown their queen.
The last few years have been them constantly in a state of lashing out and using every dirty tactic they can think of to try and make sure nobody gets uppity enough to reject their power next time.
Notice I picked older examples specifically to highlight female protags isn't some brand new innovation.
Dollars to donuts you'd whine just as much if I had only included examples from the last decade.
I've pointed this out many times, but the strong, ass-kicking hottie is a male appealing trope. Women do not want or care about such games. The only problem with Forspoken (besides the crappy, derivative gameplay and empty, pointless checklist world) is that the lead is ugly and abrasive. If she wore suggestive clothing and acted like a ditzy waifu it'd be weeb GOTY (see: Ryza)
There's been a strong, directed push in gaming right around the development of Dragon Age Inquisition to essentially take away all eye candy from men. Fat ugly stupid bitches don't want low-status gamer betas to have any access to women above their level, not even fictional ones.
Unironically the fault of Sensitive Joss Whedon more than anyone.
Buffy is the obvious example but there's also River from Firefly/Serenity as well as several characters from Dollhouse - all of which used the same stable of actors as well as included Joss' fetish for barefooted young women.
Anime/Weeb trope really, but yes. Joss has a tarded love for dumb weeb shit like "guy falls headfirst into boobs" in Avengers 2.