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Don’t laugh but I have a dumb manga question
posted 3 years ago by Smith1980 3 years ago by Smith1980 +15 / -0

Just got my first ever mangas in (Fist of the North Star and Ah My Goddess). I read them from right to left right? Opposite of what I normally do right?

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– Gemmaugr 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Yes, Right to Left.

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– Smith1980 [S] 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Thanks. Feel silly asking but just saw they arrived and I couldn’t remember

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– Guyven 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

It depends on when they were published. It was common until around 2004 to publish manga mirrored so it would read left to right. When Blade of the Immortal was translated they actually went to the effort of mirroring the layout, but preserving the orientation of the art in the cells due to the constant use of the menji symbol (flipped, it's a swastika).

Basically, the direction you flip the page determines whether it's mirrored or not. If page 1 is in the 'back' and you turn pages from the left, you read from the right (page turning and reading backwards of English). If page 1 is where it would be in a normal book and you flip pages as normal, it was printed mirrored and you read left to right.

Again, after mid 00's the latter is extremely uncommon.

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– ParadigmShift2070 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

fucking lone wolf and cub, all the calligraphy wall scrolls are flipped and swordsmen left handed

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– Smith1980 [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Ok this is right to left so must have been made recently. I’m a comic book collector as well, and I’m curious what are the most collectible manga or like the equivalent of action comics number one or amazing fantasy 15?

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– Piroko 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

In terms of raw collectability, I'd say the ToysPress english run of Mamoru Nagano's The Five Star Stories is probably the most difficult manga set to complete. And it itself is incomplete, cutting off several volumes short of the JP printing.

Some other items that come to mind:

The last volume (10) of the 2009 english printing of Kaoru Mori's Emma is also quite rare, selling for a couple hundred dollars.

Complete sets of the 2004 english printing of Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind are getting hard to find.

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– deleted 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0
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– Smith1980 [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Thanks! I appreciate rabbit holes

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– Adamrises 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Nah, the right to left has been pretty much the default since they have been coming over to the West. The left to right was just a half/half thing on official translations in the 90s to the early 2000s.

Very few people read official translations of manga. Even the biggest AAA series are usually consumed by scanlations instead of officials.

As such, collecting manga is really not much of a thing. At least not outside Japan. In Japan manga are often packed with all sorts of extras, like official extra illustrations, drama cds, OVAs, even figurines. Those are probably worth something still packaged, but outside Japan manga is basically paperweights in terms of resale.

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– Smith1980 [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Gotcha. Just curious. With comics I care more about reading them and the hobby than money and I’m interested in reading the manga

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– Adamrises 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I feel you. Manga is much more oriented towards the hobbyist and reading than comics in my experience. Things like alt covers and special #1 prints and all that pizazz that exist entirely to try and artificially create "collector's value" aren't common like they are in comics.

Back in my weeb-ier days the common joke was that its entirely a money sink, designed to get you hooked so you buy more merch such as figurines and boxsets.

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– CanuckElhead 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Correct! It can definitely take some getting used to, especially with some of the way text boxes and bubbles can stack but you'll get the hang of it. Personally loved first of the north star, hope you do as well!

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– Smith1980 [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Thanks! I saw the movie from the 80s on Tubi and loved it.

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– hungryfreaksdaddy 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Usually if you open a manga volume the wrong way, (left-to-right), there'll be a page that says "STOP! You're reading this the wrong way!" with a little sample panel showing you how to read it right-to-left. It takes a little getting used to, but it becomes second nature quickly.

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– kxitx 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

although sometimes you get manga where the official English release is flipped

look at the star wars manga you open it up at the back like you would with a normal manga and its like "no stop read it "normally" we took the liberty of flipping this shit"

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– Smith1980 [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

There is Star Wars manga? Like EU stuff?

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– Piroko 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

As in the original three. It was a Dark Horse title. Back around the time the original movies were re-released in theaters before Phantom Menace.

Each movie was done by a different artist though, so the styles diverge.

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– kxitx 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

no there was a semi-comedic manga of the original film done sometime in the 90s

https://bakashots.me/fMMcOwC0HGslK7fDfF1K

there was also a collection of stories done around 2005 that are more comedic and feature darth vader and R2-D2 duking it out https://bakashots.me/ivrbOwC0HGbBlk9nr7dd=

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– Piroko 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

The art style of A New Hope in that series was really good and I was disappointed they didn't stick with him for the other two.

Any chance you have the full set of scans?

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– kxitx 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I don't have them myself but it is on bakabt if you have an account on there from before it went private (there is a way to get a new account apparently https://wiki.bakabt.me/index.php/Sign_up )

you might be able to borrow it from the internet archive here https://archive.org/details/starwarsnewhope00tama/page/n1/mode/2up but i'm not 100% how that system works

apparently its the same artist that did the manga for dirty pair (and there seems to be very little information on him at that)

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– Piroko 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

As it so happens, I've already managed to find them.

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– Smith1980 [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Thanks!

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– BigDaddyDangler4 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

right to left, top to bottom

https://web.archive.org/web/20230102181406/https://study.soas.ac.uk/how-to-read-manga/

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– Smith1980 [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Thanks! When I opened it up o noticed it had a big “stop” message if you try to read it like an American book

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– deleted 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0
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– Smith1980 [S] 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Learning Hebrew would be interesting

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– AlfredicEnglishRules 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I would happily read the harem adventure of Moishe in My Lost Bar mitzvah

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– deleted 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0
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– Smith1980 [S] 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

I have a friend who is a Messianic Jew (Jew who believes Christ is the messiah/savior) and I went to a service once. About as close as I’ve gotten to being Jewish

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– Kienan 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

About as close as I’ve gotten to being Jewish

Just go with the Santos explanation; You're not Jewish, you're Jew-ish.

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– darkhog 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Jesus was Jewish tho, and it was the Romans who killed him.

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– cartoonericroberts 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Christianity is one of the two surviving branches of Judaism out of many many 1st century branches. Christianity evolved from followers of Jesus, and Rabbinic Judaism evolved from Pharisaic Judaism (as in from the Pharisees). Messianic Judaism doesn't really make sense because there is already is a branch of 1st century Judaism that recognizes Christ and it's called Christianity. Messianic Judaism is just a weird conflation of 1st century Judaism (which Christianity is a branch of) and modern Judaism (which Christianity is most certainly not and never will be a branch of).

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– BigDaddyDangler4 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

modern Judaism (which Christianity is most certainly not and never will be a branch of).

the Sanhedrin

I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. Revelation 2:9

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Ephesians 6:12

It always be the ones in charge. Niggas think it don't be, but it do. Massah the opps (Just making fun of the "Black Israelites", carry on. I haven't gone insane.)

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– deleted 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0
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– hungryfreaksdaddy 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Even more importantly, it was Caiaphas, the High Priest of Judea, and the Sanhedrin were the ones who ordered Jesus' arrest in the first place.

Prior to the Great Fire of Rome, in 64 AD, it was exclusively the Jews who were persecuting and murdering Christians, not Romans.

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