By posting an unqualified claim of "encouragement", you did say everyone.
That's not how words work.
If you are proudly stupid, then be honest next time, and cry that "Antonio said that NINETY YEAR OLDS should take the vaccine. THIS IS MURDER AND GENOCIDE!"
"it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to talk and remove all doubt"
That is how words work, though I am not at all surprised that a guy who takes his opinions from blog posts and random videos doesn't understand them. Your dishonest statements are comparable to saying that I "encourage people to cut off their hands" if I say that you should cut off your hand if it is gangrenous.
"it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to talk and remove all doubt"
So next time you will be honest, and phrase it in such a way that will show you to be the fool that you are, eh?
You have no defense of your other claims? Figures. Honestly, I did not expect you to collapse just this easily. You came in with a lot of bravado, I thought you would have slightly more to show for it than nothing.
I thought you would have slightly more to show for it than nothing.
You completely skipped over my response to this statement...
the benefits definitely outweigh the costs for old people.
You never answered my question, where's the longitudinal phase III data that shows that the vaccines are beneficial for old people?
You need to provide peer reviewed longitudinal studies showing efficacy against control groups to satisfy the claim that the benefits outweigh the costs, as you claim. Test results should not include symptoms or SAEs as described and categorized in the studies listed below.
Your list will need to be exactly equal and/or longer than this brief list showing symptomatic SAEs, based upon evidentiary examples taken from patients and autopsy reports. Failing to do so will confirm to me your concession, regardless of your rebuttal.
Increases in COVID-19 are unrelated to levels of vaccination across 68 countries and 2947 counties in the United States: https://archive.vn/TdQGW
Vaccine-Induced Immune Thrombotic Thrombocytopenia with Disseminated Intravascular Coagulation and Death following the ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 Vaccine: https://archive.vn/wEcTP
US case reports of cerebral venous sinus thrombosis with thrombocytopenia after vaccination with Ad26.COV2.S (against covid-19), March 2 to April 21, 2020: https://archive.vn/pycmh
Thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome associated with COVID-19 vaccines: https://archive.vn/6FTTv
COVID-19 vaccine-induced immune thrombotic thrombocytopenia: An emerging cause of splanchnic vein thrombosis: https://archive.vn/3VgF5
Symptomatic Acute Myocarditis in Seven Adolescents Following Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccination: https://archive.vn/TWZTn
Cerebral venous sinus thrombosis negative for anti-PF4 antibody without thrombocytopenia after immunization with COVID-19 vaccine in a non-comorbid elderly Indian male treated with conventional heparin-warfarin based anticoagulation: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1871402121002046
Fulminant myocarditis and systemic hyperinflammation temporally associated with BNT162b2 mRNA COVID-19 vaccination in two patients:https://archive.vn/ckC2B
GRAPHENE OXIDE DETECTION IN AQUEOUS SUSPENSION OBSERVATIONAL STUDY IN OPTICAL AND ELECTRON MICROSC: https://archive.vn/kM2u7
Pathology of vaccine deaths and vaccine injuries
After the evidence now first proof: First time detection of the vaccine spike protein in a person who died after vaccination against Covid-19: https://archive.vn/9qrPD
You completely skipped over my response to this statement...
Now you're suddenly committed to responding to everything? That sure was not the case when inconvenient facts were pointed out to you.
You never answered my question, where's the longitudinal phase III data that shows that the vaccines are beneficial for old people?
This claim relies on the presumption that nothing can be beneficial without "longitudinal phase III data", which is stupid. It's Reddit-tier "can you provide a source for your claim that cutting off your dick is actually bad?"
Your list will need to be exactly equal and/or longer than this brief list showing symptomatic SAEs
Absolutely not. First of all, many of those have nothing at all to do with any vaccine harms, like the vaccine not halting the spread effectively. You're just padding your list with harms, many of which have absolutely nothing to do with older people. You just copy-pasted your usual 'COVID vaccine bad' list.
For example, this is about two myocarditis cases in 40-somethings. Now, I don't know if you are 13, but for the rest of the world, they do not count as 'older people'.
So what exactly does this prove for older people? Nothing. Did you even read the stuff that you post? In fact, as you no doubt know, the older you are, the less likely you are to get myocarditis from the vaccine.
And how is this equivalent proof to something actually germane to the topic, for example showing that the vaccine saved hundreds of thousands of older people?
That's not how words work.
"it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to talk and remove all doubt"
That is how words work, though I am not at all surprised that a guy who takes his opinions from blog posts and random videos doesn't understand them. Your dishonest statements are comparable to saying that I "encourage people to cut off their hands" if I say that you should cut off your hand if it is gangrenous.
So next time you will be honest, and phrase it in such a way that will show you to be the fool that you are, eh?
You have no defense of your other claims? Figures. Honestly, I did not expect you to collapse just this easily. You came in with a lot of bravado, I thought you would have slightly more to show for it than nothing.
You completely skipped over my response to this statement...
You never answered my question, where's the longitudinal phase III data that shows that the vaccines are beneficial for old people?
You need to provide peer reviewed longitudinal studies showing efficacy against control groups to satisfy the claim that the benefits outweigh the costs, as you claim. Test results should not include symptoms or SAEs as described and categorized in the studies listed below.
Your list will need to be exactly equal and/or longer than this brief list showing symptomatic SAEs, based upon evidentiary examples taken from patients and autopsy reports. Failing to do so will confirm to me your concession, regardless of your rebuttal.
Increases in COVID-19 are unrelated to levels of vaccination across 68 countries and 2947 counties in the United States: https://archive.vn/TdQGW
Intracellular Reverse Transcription of Pfizer BioNTech COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 In Vitro in Human Liver Cell Line: https://www.mdpi.com/1467-3045/44/3/73/htm
Extracellular RNA constitutes a natural procoagulant cofactor in blood coagulation: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1851071/
SARS-CoV-2 Vaccines, Breakthrough Infections and Lasting Natural Immunity: https://www.cure-hub.com/post/sars-cov-2-vaccines-breakthrough-infections-and-lasting-natural-immunity
The expression of the early growth responsive gene-1 in acute pulmonary embolism of rats: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21141532/
Deep vein thrombosis (DVT) occurring shortly after the second dose of mRNA SARS-CoV-2 vaccine: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33687691/
Fatal cerebral hemorrhage after COVID-19 vaccine: https://archive.vn/hYBGa
Myocarditis following mRNA vaccination against SARS-CoV-2, a case series: https://archive.vn/WOZ0y
SARS-CoV-2 and Thrombosis: More Than Just by Chance: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32747007/
Vaccine-Induced Immune Thrombotic Thrombocytopenia with Disseminated Intravascular Coagulation and Death following the ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 Vaccine: https://archive.vn/wEcTP
Cerebral venous thrombosis after vaccination against COVID-19 in the UK: a multicentre cohort study: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)01608-1/
Fatal cerebral haemorrhage after COVID-19 vaccine: https://archive.vn/hYBGa
Thrombus Distribution in Vaccine-induced Immune Thrombotic Thrombocytopenia after ChAdOx1 nCov-19 Vaccination: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35699579/
US case reports of cerebral venous sinus thrombosis with thrombocytopenia after vaccination with Ad26.COV2.S (against covid-19), March 2 to April 21, 2020: https://archive.vn/pycmh
Thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome associated with COVID-19 vaccines: https://archive.vn/6FTTv
COVID-19 vaccine-induced immune thrombotic thrombocytopenia: An emerging cause of splanchnic vein thrombosis: https://archive.vn/3VgF5
Symptomatic Acute Myocarditis in Seven Adolescents Following Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccination: https://archive.vn/TWZTn
Blood clots and bleeding events following BNT162b2 and ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 vaccine: An analysis of European data: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0896841121000937
Prothrombotic immune thrombocytopenia after COVID-19 vaccination: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0006497121009411
Thrombosis after COVID-19 vaccination: possible link to ACE pathways:https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0049384821004369
Cerebral venous sinus thrombosis negative for anti-PF4 antibody without thrombocytopenia after immunization with COVID-19 vaccine in a non-comorbid elderly Indian male treated with conventional heparin-warfarin based anticoagulation: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1871402121002046
Middle-age Asian male with cerebral venous thrombosis after COVID-19 AstraZeneca vaccination: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0735675721005714
Immune Thrombocytopenic Purpura Following Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine in an Elderly Female: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34513446/
Myocarditis after Covid-19 mRNA Vaccination: https://archive.vn/YOGQv
Fulminant myocarditis and systemic hyperinflammation temporally associated with BNT162b2 mRNA COVID-19 vaccination in two patients: https://archive.vn/ckC2B
Acute myocarditis following administration of BNT162b2 vaccine: https://archive.vn/PPhFk
Myocarditis Associated with mRNA COVID-19 Vaccination: https://archive.vn/pqfQx
GRAPHENE OXIDE DETECTION IN AQUEOUS SUSPENSION OBSERVATIONAL STUDY IN OPTICAL AND ELECTRON MICROSC: https://archive.vn/kM2u7
Pathology of vaccine deaths and vaccine injuries After the evidence now first proof: First time detection of the vaccine spike protein in a person who died after vaccination against Covid-19: https://archive.vn/9qrPD
Latest statistics on England mortality data suggest systematic mis-categorisation of vaccine status and uncertain effectiveness of Covid-19 vaccination: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/356756711_Latest_statistics_on_England_mortality_data_suggest_systematic_mis-categorisation_of_vaccine_status_and_uncertain_effectiveness_of_Covid-19_vaccination
Cerebral Venous Sinus Thrombosis following COVID-19 Vaccination: Analysis of 552 Worldwide Cases: https://archive.vn/O4nS8
Now you're suddenly committed to responding to everything? That sure was not the case when inconvenient facts were pointed out to you.
This claim relies on the presumption that nothing can be beneficial without "longitudinal phase III data", which is stupid. It's Reddit-tier "can you provide a source for your claim that cutting off your dick is actually bad?"
Absolutely not. First of all, many of those have nothing at all to do with any vaccine harms, like the vaccine not halting the spread effectively. You're just padding your list with harms, many of which have absolutely nothing to do with older people. You just copy-pasted your usual 'COVID vaccine bad' list.
For example, this is about two myocarditis cases in 40-somethings. Now, I don't know if you are 13, but for the rest of the world, they do not count as 'older people'.
So what exactly does this prove for older people? Nothing. Did you even read the stuff that you post? In fact, as you no doubt know, the older you are, the less likely you are to get myocarditis from the vaccine.
And how is this equivalent proof to something actually germane to the topic, for example showing that the vaccine saved hundreds of thousands of older people?
Concession noted.