Yea as much as I wish it wasn’t I see it to be true. Although I still would encourage people to try their best and lowering standards is very dangerous
I believe Sowell wrote a great deal about this in Intellectuals and Race. He does not outright reject the genetic hypothesis, but says that he has no need for that hypothesis.
Haven’t read that one yet. I do remember hearing that. He was against affirmative action because he saw that failure it caused as well as not admitting qualified candidates. It just makes no sense. If a group has a lower IQ on average then wouldn’t lowering standards and coddling them be the worst thing?
It makes no sense if you're looking at it as trying to get competent people into positions where they can actually do some good.
If you're looking at the jobs as a patronage system, it makes perfect sense. Who cares if they can't do their jobs as well? You want to bring in your supporters, and screw the people who are hurt by it.
Many of the people posting here think that affirmative action benefiting blacks is bad, but they do want affirmative action in favor of whites so they don't have to compete with Asians.
Many of the people posting here think that affirmative action benefiting blacks is bad, but they do want affirmative action in favor of whites so they don't have to compete with Asians.
IQ is most useful as a threshold. That’s why the military won’t accept people with IQs lower than 83.
Judging by the state of black nations all over the world, 85 average IQ is not sufficient to create functional and prosperous societies. Not anyone else’s problem, truthfully.
Judging by white nations all over the world, 103 average IQ is more than sufficient. That’s why majority-white nations are among the most prosperous in the world.
There’s no reason why whites, who have proven themselves capable of creating and maintaining high quality societies, should be displaced by “higher IQ” Asians and Jews at all the levers of wealth, power, and influence.
You probably didn’t think you were indirectly advocating for ethnostates, huh?
Many of the people posting here think that affirmative action benefiting blacks is bad, but they do want affirmative action in favor of whites so they don't have to compete with Asians.
Where the fuck are you seeing this? Is this one of those, "I know I hang out with a bunch of bad people but at least I don't (hate Asians) (like Drumpf) (love Putin) (hate the Jews)" rationalizations that people have? If so, it's a new one to me.
i dont care how good chinks are at math, they live like actual bugmen and are eternally retarded in spirit for it, i want none of that in my country even if it means we'll have to go to mars in 2120 at the hand of Richard Stoneweather instead of in 2119 with Chin Som Ban's research
Many of the people posting here think that affirmative action benefiting blacks is bad, but they do want affirmative action in favor of whites so they don't have to compete with Asians.
I've literally never seen this opinion espoused on this board or...anywhere really. Perhaps you're conflating this with people who are just white nationalists? I dont necessarily agree with it, but its certainly a different position than wanting affirmative action in universities and employment in trivial jobs.
I don't, but he has interesting things to say about almost everything.
Although it's not a matter of science. Observed differences are a matter of science. The data is out there, and how you explain them is then a separate matter, as was shown in the 'intellectuals' of the title who in the beginning of the 20th century argued that differences proved that blacks were inferior and at the end of the 20th century argued that it proved discrimination.
The explanation for the differences is also a matter of science. That doesn't mean that everyone has to agree or that it has to be settled. But you can do experiments to determine the degree to which racial characteristics are genetics.
Yea as much as I wish it wasn’t I see it to be true. Although I still would encourage people to try their best and lowering standards is very dangerous
I believe Sowell wrote a great deal about this in Intellectuals and Race. He does not outright reject the genetic hypothesis, but says that he has no need for that hypothesis.
Haven’t read that one yet. I do remember hearing that. He was against affirmative action because he saw that failure it caused as well as not admitting qualified candidates. It just makes no sense. If a group has a lower IQ on average then wouldn’t lowering standards and coddling them be the worst thing?
It makes no sense if you're looking at it as trying to get competent people into positions where they can actually do some good.
If you're looking at the jobs as a patronage system, it makes perfect sense. Who cares if they can't do their jobs as well? You want to bring in your supporters, and screw the people who are hurt by it.
Many of the people posting here think that affirmative action benefiting blacks is bad, but they do want affirmative action in favor of whites so they don't have to compete with Asians.
IQ is most useful as a threshold. That’s why the military won’t accept people with IQs lower than 83.
Judging by the state of black nations all over the world, 85 average IQ is not sufficient to create functional and prosperous societies. Not anyone else’s problem, truthfully.
Judging by white nations all over the world, 103 average IQ is more than sufficient. That’s why majority-white nations are among the most prosperous in the world.
There’s no reason why whites, who have proven themselves capable of creating and maintaining high quality societies, should be displaced by “higher IQ” Asians and Jews at all the levers of wealth, power, and influence.
You probably didn’t think you were indirectly advocating for ethnostates, huh?
Where the fuck are you seeing this? Is this one of those, "I know I hang out with a bunch of bad people but at least I don't (hate Asians) (like Drumpf) (love Putin) (hate the Jews)" rationalizations that people have? If so, it's a new one to me.
i dont care how good chinks are at math, they live like actual bugmen and are eternally retarded in spirit for it, i want none of that in my country even if it means we'll have to go to mars in 2120 at the hand of Richard Stoneweather instead of in 2119 with Chin Som Ban's research
I've literally never seen this opinion espoused on this board or...anywhere really. Perhaps you're conflating this with people who are just white nationalists? I dont necessarily agree with it, but its certainly a different position than wanting affirmative action in universities and employment in trivial jobs.
I'm not sure why we'd be looking to Thomas Sowell for explanations on that. That's not a political topic. That is a matter of science.
I don't, but he has interesting things to say about almost everything.
Although it's not a matter of science. Observed differences are a matter of science. The data is out there, and how you explain them is then a separate matter, as was shown in the 'intellectuals' of the title who in the beginning of the 20th century argued that differences proved that blacks were inferior and at the end of the 20th century argued that it proved discrimination.
The explanation for the differences is also a matter of science. That doesn't mean that everyone has to agree or that it has to be settled. But you can do experiments to determine the degree to which racial characteristics are genetics.