If you're flirting with a girl and stop and ask "do I have your consent to have sex with you", there's fewer things that women would find less attractive.
If a man is physically attractive enough what he says doesn't matter and her hamster will spin it into a positive light. If a man isn't physically attractive nothing he says will be seen as a positive. "Creepy" in womanese that means unattractive. But since women are unable to accept responsibility for anything, including their own preferences, they couch it in language that blames the man.
Women obviously don't want to be raped
80% of women will ADMIT to having rape fantasies, which means 100% actually do. But the trick is they only want to be raped by chad, not you.
I also understand how the different sexes operate
No, you don't. You still appear to hold the bluepill notion that women have some kind of moral agency.
Rape has always hinged on whether the other party consented or not.
Eh, no it hasn't.
Historically, rape was simply sex with an unmarried woman. The concept of 'consent' had nothing to do with it: you nail her before marriage, you've committed a crime. Women could not commit rape because men couldn't be raped, consent or no.
Reddit r/rapefantasy is full of reports, if they are to be believed, of women inviting rape, that is putting themselves in a situation where the chance of rape is high but not actually consenting, and then enjoying it at least in retrospect. I guess what I would say is it probably wasn't rape, but that doesn't mean the guy knew that. IOW it may not have been rape, but it may have been sex with an actual rapist.
I'm not a Christian but I'm going through the Bible and trying to learn from it and I'll pay closer attention to that question.
My mom
Group tendencies don't preclude the existence of exceptional individuals. Your mother might be saintly but that doesn't apply to women in general.
My saying "women don't have moral agency" is a linguistic shortcut and somewhat troll-y and I will admit might not be the literal truth. But if it were true it does explain women's behavior in the overwhelming majority of situations.
From this understanding, came about the understanding that marital rape was not a thing, because women would marry men that were not physically attractive to them, but were financially attractive.
The social contract was such that she had to provide sex as part of the marriage. Now easier to deny, wait a bit, claim abuse, and steal a large chunk of finance. Rinse and repeat, because plastic features and public masturbation is desirable.
If a man is physically attractive enough what he says doesn't matter and her hamster will spin it into a positive light. If a man isn't physically attractive nothing he says will be seen as a positive.
This is true to a degree. Obviously there's an upper bound of attractiveness where you can do no wrong, and a lower limit of where you can do no right. Most men are somewhere in the range between those lines, and can engage in elaborate mating rituals or have other qualities like $$$ that lift them up a bit. That's why even butt ugly guys in a rock band can make women wet.
Naturally this preference and the exact attractiveness requirements varies per woman, and hypergamy has inflated the bar such in women's minds that more and more men now fall under the "creepy" line, while the upper line is 6-6-6.
women totally want to be jogging along a mountain path and have a good looking masculine man jump out and forcibly rape them
yes
some trail or some dark alley
you are buying into the feminist framework, I know its tough to break a lifetime of cultural conditioning
the vast majority of cases are a woman volunteered to be in the situation, but the result wasn't exactly what she wanted and now she gets to cry for victim points and money
see mike tyson, kobe, bill cosby, and I never thought I would say this but i'll even defend bill clinton
I assume they're not fantasizing about a man jumping out of the bushes and assaulting them sexually. If they are, that would surprise me.
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No that is literally the kind of fantasies that many women have. Easy to verify from their erotic fiction, magazine articles, online discussion boards, and from simply roleplaying with them.
But ernsithe is right, that doesn't mean they actually want to be raped. Fantasy <> Real Life.
There are women who might fantasize about it. At the same time though, there's very very few women who realistically want to play or act out anything close to that fantasy. And even between those rare exceptions who do seek out to explore that kind of dangerous territory, there's still a pretty wide gradient for how they might try to experiment with those kinds of experiences.
I think some people end up assuming that because someone has a fantasy, that it must be something a person would almost "certainly" want to play out, just so long as there are "favorable" conditions. The reality is that such a way of thinking is rather two-dimensional, and fails to take into account the multi-faceted complexities that may be involved.
Or to put it another way, just because a woman fantasizes about a one night stand with George Clooney does not mean she's unaware of the potential risks and consequences, including the very real possibility that he may just be really terrible in bed. The kind of woman who wouldn't use her head, or wouldn't care, an emotionally immature kind of woman, is the kind of woman that acp_k2win is describing.
If a man is physically attractive enough what he says doesn't matter and her hamster will spin it into a positive light. If a man isn't physically attractive nothing he says will be seen as a positive. "Creepy" in womanese that means unattractive. But since women are unable to accept responsibility for anything, including their own preferences, they couch it in language that blames the man.
80% of women will ADMIT to having rape fantasies, which means 100% actually do. But the trick is they only want to be raped by chad, not you.
No, you don't. You still appear to hold the bluepill notion that women have some kind of moral agency.
You stumbled on the truth. That the definition of "rape" is entirely subjective based on a woman's arbitrary declaration.
Always had been. Rape has always hinged on whether the other party consented or not.
They're just calling any unwanted attention, regardless of how sexual it is, rape because its an easy weapon to wield against men.
Eh, no it hasn't.
Historically, rape was simply sex with an unmarried woman. The concept of 'consent' had nothing to do with it: you nail her before marriage, you've committed a crime. Women could not commit rape because men couldn't be raped, consent or no.
Reddit r/rapefantasy is full of reports, if they are to be believed, of women inviting rape, that is putting themselves in a situation where the chance of rape is high but not actually consenting, and then enjoying it at least in retrospect. I guess what I would say is it probably wasn't rape, but that doesn't mean the guy knew that. IOW it may not have been rape, but it may have been sex with an actual rapist.
I'm not a Christian but I'm going through the Bible and trying to learn from it and I'll pay closer attention to that question.
Group tendencies don't preclude the existence of exceptional individuals. Your mother might be saintly but that doesn't apply to women in general.
My saying "women don't have moral agency" is a linguistic shortcut and somewhat troll-y and I will admit might not be the literal truth. But if it were true it does explain women's behavior in the overwhelming majority of situations.
From this understanding, came about the understanding that marital rape was not a thing, because women would marry men that were not physically attractive to them, but were financially attractive.
The social contract was such that she had to provide sex as part of the marriage. Now easier to deny, wait a bit, claim abuse, and steal a large chunk of finance. Rinse and repeat, because plastic features and public masturbation is desirable.
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This is true to a degree. Obviously there's an upper bound of attractiveness where you can do no wrong, and a lower limit of where you can do no right. Most men are somewhere in the range between those lines, and can engage in elaborate mating rituals or have other qualities like $$$ that lift them up a bit. That's why even butt ugly guys in a rock band can make women wet.
Naturally this preference and the exact attractiveness requirements varies per woman, and hypergamy has inflated the bar such in women's minds that more and more men now fall under the "creepy" line, while the upper line is 6-6-6.
yes
you are buying into the feminist framework, I know its tough to break a lifetime of cultural conditioning
the vast majority of cases are a woman volunteered to be in the situation, but the result wasn't exactly what she wanted and now she gets to cry for victim points and money
see mike tyson, kobe, bill cosby, and I never thought I would say this but i'll even defend bill clinton
???
No that is literally the kind of fantasies that many women have. Easy to verify from their erotic fiction, magazine articles, online discussion boards, and from simply roleplaying with them.
But ernsithe is right, that doesn't mean they actually want to be raped. Fantasy <> Real Life.
There are women who might fantasize about it. At the same time though, there's very very few women who realistically want to play or act out anything close to that fantasy. And even between those rare exceptions who do seek out to explore that kind of dangerous territory, there's still a pretty wide gradient for how they might try to experiment with those kinds of experiences.
I think some people end up assuming that because someone has a fantasy, that it must be something a person would almost "certainly" want to play out, just so long as there are "favorable" conditions. The reality is that such a way of thinking is rather two-dimensional, and fails to take into account the multi-faceted complexities that may be involved.
Or to put it another way, just because a woman fantasizes about a one night stand with George Clooney does not mean she's unaware of the potential risks and consequences, including the very real possibility that he may just be really terrible in bed. The kind of woman who wouldn't use her head, or wouldn't care, an emotionally immature kind of woman, is the kind of woman that acp_k2win is describing.