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– MAGAnic316 37 points 3 years ago +37 / -0

Yip, we’re all idiots for asking questions.

The mainstream are 100% correct. Mankind clearly rose from simple Hunter gatherers to suddenly possessing the astrological, mathematical and mechanical skills to be able to erect gigantic megaliths and cities in just a few hundred years, and then we all somehow mysteriously forgot how to do it right up until the 20th century rolled around. Yeah right.

Hancock may not be spot on about everything, and I do wish to God him and Joe Rogan would cool it on all the “taking drugs is cool” talk, but the dude is 100% correct when he says there a HUGE pieces of our history that have been deliberately kept from us.

Every government that has ever existed on this earth has lied to its people at some point. Mainstream media can keep fucking off as far as I’m concerned

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– LauriThorne 19 points 3 years ago +19 / -0

Even if we assume it's just lost and academics aren't keeping it secret on purpose, simply suppressing it because their egos can't handle being wrong, what's wrong with exploring alternative theories?

It's because they don't do anything in good faith, ever.

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– OldBullLee 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I do wish to God him and Joe Rogan would cool it on all the “taking drugs is cool” talk

Why? They specifically discuss psychedelics. Taking psychedelics with a prepared mind is a philosophical exercise that can be great fun, ecstatic even, but also horrifying.

Don't let the idiotic hare-brained "dope culture" or the moronic "new-age" nonsense fool you into dismissing their value.

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– MAGAnic316 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

For starters Hancock has a shitload of “credentialed” assholes just looking for an opportunity to assassinate his character, and he’s basically handing them the ammunition on a silver platter.

“Are you guys seriously listening to Hancock? He’s an admitted drug user, ya know...”

I’m surprised the guardian didn’t mention it THIS time around, but I’m sure they will if the show gets any more popular.

Secondly, I personally think Hancock places too much faith in the psychedelics. I get that he met with remote tribes and took what they took in order to try to understand their cultures better etc, but the dude sounds downright whacky when he starts going off on tangents about the “latent psychic power of the human mind”.

Sorry, it all becomes a bit much for me. I just don’t see the value in it. You aren’t really going on a spirit walk or talking to the ancestors or astral projecting to the “other side” or whatever other stupid shit the jungle people believe. You’re smarter than they are. Sorry if that’s racist or unwoke to say, but it’s the truth. You’ve taken a powerful hallucinogen and now you’re tripping balls, that’s all that’s REALLY happening and you know it. It might just be because I grew up in Africa where two thirds of the population still make decisions by sprinkling blood and chicken bones whenever they need “wisdom from the ancestors”. I watched African guys show up to work vomiting and sick as a dog, because the local witch doctor told them to drink four bottles of dishwashing liquid to clean their “dirty” blood. And it doesn’t matter how much you try to warn them not to go back to that witch doctor because he’s a fuckin lunatic, they’re back a week later smoking weed mixed with tea leaves so they can “hear the elders” wisdom that supposedly floats around in the air.

There’s a reason our protoEuropean ancestors moved away from this shamanistic/tribal nonsense. At some point they realised that it was better and far more practical to be alert and have your wits about you as you and the fellas speared mammoth on the plains or stalked elk through the forests with your improvised bow and arrow, than it was to be on the floor of your hut, with your eyes rolled back in their sockets while you shit yourself.

Hancock is at his best when he’s talking about hard facts and pointing out the absurd inconsistencies in the historical record, not waxing lyrical with Rogan about dropping acid and doing Peyote for fuckin 60% of the discussion.

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– OldBullLee 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Where does this hostility to psychedelics come from? Too much hype? Too many yuppie new-agers babbling about "ayahuasca" in their journals recounting their posh "jungle" retreats to barf with strangers in a hut?

I infer your materialist world-view is rather rigid.

Fair enough.

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– MAGAnic316 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Where does this hostility to psychedelics come from?

Again, just the result of 39 years watching Africans unsuccessfully try to drug themselves out of poverty, crime and HIV.

I infer your materialist world-view is rather rigid.

You may be right, I am unfortunately a bit of a cynical asshole, lol. You try being a conservative millennial surrounded by Covidiots sometime 😆

Just always preferred the practical and tangible answers over the wishy washy. Just my opinion though. I still appreciate Hancock’s work and his theories.

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