These "defensive" measures are being treated as referendums on abortion itself and all the left wingers are REEEEing out on them.
The Right needs to cool down and stay away from abortion and let the US Supreme Court do its work until the Left cools down a bit, then we can boil the frog and systematically tighten abortion restrictions. Pushing too fast isn't a winning strategy.
Yes, a 15 week ban was popular, but it passed by the legislature, not as a direct democracy vote.
Kansas proved that direct democracy abortion votes are being treated in strange and inexplicable ways by people who use them as an outlet to shout that abortion should be legal.
Kansas proved that direct democracy abortion votes are being treated in strange and inexplicable ways by people who use them as an outlet to shout that abortion should be legal.
Tell me about it. I live here, and it has been hair-pulling frustration to see people talking about it. There is state-level support for pushing the ban limit back from the 22-weeks its at now to be closer to 15. But there is no support for a full ban. The wording of the amendment left open the option that the legislature could institute a full ban if they decided to. People decided they didnt want that. And I saw people say this was a sign the state was going blue and we were going to all die.
Then yesterday, the Dem governor barely managed to hold on (and only because she has actually been a moderate thus far), the Republicans blew out the State House and Executive offices, and many of those who won supported the amendment, and won by overwhelming votes.
Almost like, our issue was with the amendment itself, and nothing else.
Kansas proved that direct democracy abortion votes are being treated in strange and inexplicable ways by people who use them as an outlet to shout that abortion should be legal.
Yes, a 15 week ban was popular, but it passed by the legislature, not as a direct democracy vote.
It has been suggested that Republicans pushing anti-abortion legislation is what led to this fiasco, which seems plausible, but for the fact that things went so great in Florida.
Kansas proved that direct democracy abortion votes are being treated in strange and inexplicable ways by people who use them as an outlet to shout that abortion should be legal.
That may have been because it was a primary vote. Or because people treated it as pro or anti, rather than if it should be decided by judges. People are easily manipulated.
Women's humanity, right there.
I hate how much they are saying that women are the more emphatic and compassionate of the sexes. I've yet to see that in real life.
I do see that in real life, but I don't see that in the news.
Wasn't that one of Hitler's strategies?
Tell a lie so often that eventually those who knew it was at the start begin to believe it?
It sounds more like a Goebbels thing, or something Hitler would have accused the Jews of doing.
Goebbels. You were right.
Like the Holocaust?
The rich and their pets moved to Montana in the 80s and 90s. It's been turning Blue as their skies for awhile now.
These "defensive" measures are being treated as referendums on abortion itself and all the left wingers are REEEEing out on them.
The Right needs to cool down and stay away from abortion and let the US Supreme Court do its work until the Left cools down a bit, then we can boil the frog and systematically tighten abortion restrictions. Pushing too fast isn't a winning strategy.
DeSantis passed a 15 week ban and crushed the opposition.
This seems to be less opposable than a 15 week ban? What is the difference here?
Yes, a 15 week ban was popular, but it passed by the legislature, not as a direct democracy vote.
Kansas proved that direct democracy abortion votes are being treated in strange and inexplicable ways by people who use them as an outlet to shout that abortion should be legal.
Tell me about it. I live here, and it has been hair-pulling frustration to see people talking about it. There is state-level support for pushing the ban limit back from the 22-weeks its at now to be closer to 15. But there is no support for a full ban. The wording of the amendment left open the option that the legislature could institute a full ban if they decided to. People decided they didnt want that. And I saw people say this was a sign the state was going blue and we were going to all die.
Then yesterday, the Dem governor barely managed to hold on (and only because she has actually been a moderate thus far), the Republicans blew out the State House and Executive offices, and many of those who won supported the amendment, and won by overwhelming votes.
Almost like, our issue was with the amendment itself, and nothing else.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFgcqB8-AxE
It has been suggested that Republicans pushing anti-abortion legislation is what led to this fiasco, which seems plausible, but for the fact that things went so great in Florida.
That may have been because it was a primary vote. Or because people treated it as pro or anti, rather than if it should be decided by judges. People are easily manipulated.