It is called conquest. They don't need to be nice as they come in and conquer. The myths and beliefs of the last century or two have to die, as it turns out the old ways never died. A people move in jn large numbers they will conquer the people who let them in, simple as that.
You are absolutely, emphatically wrong. Ask the South Africans. The land settled by their fledgling nation was unoccupied when they arrived. Migrants came because it was (more or less) a first world nation on the African continent.
I was saying how it should be. If I moved to Italy for business or something it would be my responsibility to learn Italian and learn about the culture
The land settled by their fledgling nation was unoccupied when they arrived.
Is that really true? I know nothing about SA but was always under the impression that some tribe or two were the original occupants and whitey stole their land.
No. Prior to the Boer landing, most of the tip of Africa was essentially like the northern Midwest... grass, migrating herds and the occasional hunter gatherer from elsewhere. The last 120 years of their history have been "okay, we finally assimilated group 1 of random blacks... wait, where did this new group come from?!?!?"
It is mostly true. There area was very sparsely populated in some areas, with almost all of the farmland being considered to be too difficult to work with the wooden tools that the locals used at the time.
Bantu speaking locals were moving (slowly) in to colonize from the north, but they had not done that in large numbers or with any real organization.
There had been attacks on the European settlement at the cape, and the (mostly) Dutch Settlers moved inland, looking for an unoccupied area that would not be contested, where they could engage in friendly trade with the locals.
Later when the settlers had achieved some prosperity and were trading with those friendly locals, they attracted a lot of attention; as the trade was giving a better lifestyle to their trading partners. Other major language groups (tribes?) including the Zulu moved because of the opportunities created.
"Apartheid" literally means "apart". It was an effort for the European descendants to build their own things, while the tribal peoples could have their own. An attempt at multiculturalism; multiple cultures running side by side.
It is called conquest. They don't need to be nice as they come in and conquer. The myths and beliefs of the last century or two have to die, as it turns out the old ways never died. A people move in jn large numbers they will conquer the people who let them in, simple as that.
I guess I’m naive when I say that if you legally immigrate you have to assimilate. Or when in tone do as Romans do
You are absolutely, emphatically wrong. Ask the South Africans. The land settled by their fledgling nation was unoccupied when they arrived. Migrants came because it was (more or less) a first world nation on the African continent.
See where they are now.
I was saying how it should be. If I moved to Italy for business or something it would be my responsibility to learn Italian and learn about the culture
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Incorrect, it was mostly empty and the tribesmen that followed the Dutch slaughtered the people that were there first
I stand corrected.
Is that really true? I know nothing about SA but was always under the impression that some tribe or two were the original occupants and whitey stole their land.
No. Prior to the Boer landing, most of the tip of Africa was essentially like the northern Midwest... grass, migrating herds and the occasional hunter gatherer from elsewhere. The last 120 years of their history have been "okay, we finally assimilated group 1 of random blacks... wait, where did this new group come from?!?!?"
It is mostly true. There area was very sparsely populated in some areas, with almost all of the farmland being considered to be too difficult to work with the wooden tools that the locals used at the time.
Bantu speaking locals were moving (slowly) in to colonize from the north, but they had not done that in large numbers or with any real organization.
There had been attacks on the European settlement at the cape, and the (mostly) Dutch Settlers moved inland, looking for an unoccupied area that would not be contested, where they could engage in friendly trade with the locals.
Later when the settlers had achieved some prosperity and were trading with those friendly locals, they attracted a lot of attention; as the trade was giving a better lifestyle to their trading partners. Other major language groups (tribes?) including the Zulu moved because of the opportunities created.
"Apartheid" literally means "apart". It was an effort for the European descendants to build their own things, while the tribal peoples could have their own. An attempt at multiculturalism; multiple cultures running side by side.
Your link is dead.
That one works. Thanks.
The original gave me a 404 error.