I always wonder how legit this is. I really didn’t hear this complaint til the constant pushing of women into predominantly male hobbies. I hear this complaint and sometimes I feel like they exaggerate and it really was a guy asking what their favorite comic book or anime is. And these ladies need to get over themselves. Led Zeppelin is before my time but I love the band and have one of their shirts. I’ve been asked by older people how I know the band or what got me into them. I’m happy to talk about it.
Hah, seriously! I have a middle school aged kid who has a Nirvana shirt (and this is not even exactly rare today).
Multiple times people have talked to him about it, asked him his favorite song, asked him how he got into Nirvana, etc--and they've all been positive conversations! He talked about how his grandfather liked Nirvana and would play them in the car getting picked up from school sometimes. The other dude would share how HE got into Nirvana, what his favorite song was, etc.
It's a completely normal interaction if you're not a total poser. Even if your answer is "oh I just liked the logo I don't really listen to much nirvana"
It's only when you want people to think you're into the current niche, quirky thing when you're really not does it make you angry
I was in a store that was playing Queen. Then Safety Dance on. I commented to this girl who worked there that they were playing some pretty great music. She says "Oh I know, I just LOVE oldies."
That's the thing, if you've actually got any interest in the thing, it's merely a way to start the conversation. These people find it intimidating because their only intent is to wear the fandom like a skinsuit.
Yep. In middle school I was into music from my parents generation and plenty of adults asked me about it because they thought it was cool. I enjoyed it.
Honestly, as a longtime con-goer, the "Cosplay Is Not Consent" movement was actually needed.
Most people that you meet at conventions are friendly, normal people. However, there is a certain subset that I would call "socially retarded." Some of these people have sense of personal hygiene; others have no sense of appropriate behavior with strangers. Add in the anonymity that empowers people with ill intent, and things can go south. I have several friends of both sexes who experienced sexual harassment or even (minor) assault at conventions.
How people behave depends a lot on the specific type of con. In my experience, horror cons tend to be the best in this regard; anime cons tend to be the worst. This behavior is also not confined to males. Some of the worst offenders were teenage girls. "Glomping" (tackle-hugging) strangers because they were dressed as a certain character was almost female-exclusive.
Overall, the atmosphere of cons, after CINC became semi-mainstream, improved in my experience.
Sometimes, albeit more rarely, it could get more serious though, with groping people's breasts/genitalia, or whacking people on the asses with those stupid "Yaoi Paddles" that were popular a while back.
I agree, that it wasn't like people were getting raped on the convention floor, but there needed to be some kind of initiative to tell people that they still have to act like civilized human being at conventions.
Yea. I feel the same way when you hear women whining about toxic males in gaming. I wonder if it was just normal trash talk. Watch dudes play Madden and you’ll hear plenty of “toxic language”
I always wonder how legit this is. I really didn’t hear this complaint til the constant pushing of women into predominantly male hobbies. I hear this complaint and sometimes I feel like they exaggerate and it really was a guy asking what their favorite comic book or anime is. And these ladies need to get over themselves. Led Zeppelin is before my time but I love the band and have one of their shirts. I’ve been asked by older people how I know the band or what got me into them. I’m happy to talk about it.
Hah, seriously! I have a middle school aged kid who has a Nirvana shirt (and this is not even exactly rare today).
Multiple times people have talked to him about it, asked him his favorite song, asked him how he got into Nirvana, etc--and they've all been positive conversations! He talked about how his grandfather liked Nirvana and would play them in the car getting picked up from school sometimes. The other dude would share how HE got into Nirvana, what his favorite song was, etc.
People need to lighten.
It's a completely normal interaction if you're not a total poser. Even if your answer is "oh I just liked the logo I don't really listen to much nirvana"
It's only when you want people to think you're into the current niche, quirky thing when you're really not does it make you angry
Ha, that's impossible, because Nirvana was popular merely ten years ago!
-checks calendar-
WHAT THE FUCK WHEN DID IT BECOME THE DISTANT FUTURE
I know, right?
I was in a store that was playing Queen. Then Safety Dance on. I commented to this girl who worked there that they were playing some pretty great music. She says "Oh I know, I just LOVE oldies."
Oldies? FML.
Congrats you are living in The Simpsons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjiyq25crAQ
That's the thing, if you've actually got any interest in the thing, it's merely a way to start the conversation. These people find it intimidating because their only intent is to wear the fandom like a skinsuit.
Signs you're getting old - grandpas are the ones who listened to Nirvana
Smells like Old Spice.
Yep. In middle school I was into music from my parents generation and plenty of adults asked me about it because they thought it was cool. I enjoyed it.
It's basically asking what their favorite character or song is.
Honestly, as a longtime con-goer, the "Cosplay Is Not Consent" movement was actually needed.
Most people that you meet at conventions are friendly, normal people. However, there is a certain subset that I would call "socially retarded." Some of these people have sense of personal hygiene; others have no sense of appropriate behavior with strangers. Add in the anonymity that empowers people with ill intent, and things can go south. I have several friends of both sexes who experienced sexual harassment or even (minor) assault at conventions.
How people behave depends a lot on the specific type of con. In my experience, horror cons tend to be the best in this regard; anime cons tend to be the worst. This behavior is also not confined to males. Some of the worst offenders were teenage girls. "Glomping" (tackle-hugging) strangers because they were dressed as a certain character was almost female-exclusive.
Overall, the atmosphere of cons, after CINC became semi-mainstream, improved in my experience.
Sometimes, albeit more rarely, it could get more serious though, with groping people's breasts/genitalia, or whacking people on the asses with those stupid "Yaoi Paddles" that were popular a while back.
I agree, that it wasn't like people were getting raped on the convention floor, but there needed to be some kind of initiative to tell people that they still have to act like civilized human being at conventions.
Yea. I feel the same way when you hear women whining about toxic males in gaming. I wonder if it was just normal trash talk. Watch dudes play Madden and you’ll hear plenty of “toxic language”
Agreed