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Cuba votes yes to legalize gay marriage (www.bbc.com)
posted 3 years ago by Telia 3 years ago by Telia +27 / -0
Cuba Family Code: Country votes to legalise same-sex marriage
It marks a big moment for Cuba, which saw gay people persecuted in the 1960s and 70s.
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– AntonioOfVenice 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Sanctions are just "we don't want to give our money to this country because we do not want to enable them and support them".

Not for a moment do I believe that you don't know what secondary sanctions are. Also trade is not "giv[ing them] our money". It is private individuals engaged in mutually beneficial transactions.

How is that criminal? It's like telling the US "suck the commie dick, bigot".

Oh, the poor, oppressioned US. I definitely believed that your elites, who oppress your own people as much as those of other countries, should have the right to starve a people because they do not like its government.

Let me tell you something: if North Korea, Iran, and Cuba had their shit together, they wouldn't NEED to trade with the US. They'd be able to make their own little Wakanda paradise without trade.

You are not naive enough to think that I would believe this. Obviously, they don't, but that is hardly an excuse for terrorizing a population because your criminal elites do not like a government. Even the French Revolution has the policy of: friendship with all peoples, enmity towards all kings. The US surpasses that.

All we are doing is shutting off the cheat code that China used to leap ahead and do 150 years of development in 25 years thanks to US companies coming in and doing it all for them with the Chinese only providing cheap labor.

You sure as hell are not shutting off the 'cheat code' in China, possibly because your elites receive large amounts of bribes from China. Anyway, if that is 'cheatng', then you 'cheated' in industrialization because of British investment.

If I was president I would decouple the US from China entirely and sanction the shit out of them.

So noble.

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– Assassin47 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Even the French Revolution has the policy of: friendship with all peoples, enmity towards all kings.

When the US was founded one if its unofficial slogans was "In wartime, enemies. In peace, friends." It was hoped by the people of the day that we could have peaceful relations with everyone. And that was during a time of despotic kings, pirate enclaves, and global slavery. I don't know exactly when the whole "nation building", "promoting democracy" idea started but it's antithetical to America's founding ideals.

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– dekachin 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

It is private individuals engaged in mutually beneficial transactions.

Yes, by giving them our money and allowing them to benefit from our money. Which we shouldn't be doing if the other country is hostile.

should have the right to starve a people because they do not like its government.

We aren't starving anyone. Do you see the US going in and firebombing their crops? No. Can the Cubans not grow their own food? Can they not trade with other shithole countries like them for their own food?

that is hardly an excuse for terrorizing a population because your criminal elites do not like a government.

LOL you think not engaging in trade is terrorism. LOL no. The United States has a right to withhold trade from anyone it wants to.

you 'cheated' in industrialization because of British investment.

That's not the same. US companies didn't just give China loans, when we went to them, they were NOTHING. We taught them everything from scratch. China brought nothing to the table except for cheap labor. By contrast, the US in the 1800s was a peer power with the UK which quickly surpassed it thanks to our own development. We invented the cotton gin. We invented ironclad warships. We invented the light bulb and electricity. The US wasn't some 3rd world country like China.

Was it a mistake to develop China? Absolutely. It was one of the dumbest things in human history: we took a country we knew to be an enemy, which was too poor to be a threat, and we gave it everything it needed to massively develop and become a threat. And now we have to deal with the mess that caused by trying to pull it back before it gets worse.

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