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Covid to remain leading cause of death (web.archive.org)
posted 3 years ago by AlfredicEnglishRules 3 years ago by AlfredicEnglishRules +9 / -0
Covid will be a leading cause of death in the U.S. indefinitely, whether or not the pandemic is 'over'
Disease experts predict that Covid will remain among the top 10 causes of death in the U.S. for the foreseeable future.
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– MaverickBoobies 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

Of course it will remain the leading cause, after all when someone has a car crash and die because a semi plowed through them, that person died of the coof!

Died of cancer? Too bad! It was the coof!

Died of a gunshot? Well, look at that! It was the coof!

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– AlfredicEnglishRules [S] 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Wear safety vests and goggles because you don't know if the bullet that shot through the guy in front of you might have covid.

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– AntonioOfVenice 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

Disease experts predict

Experts are at it again.

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– dagthegnome 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

So that they don't have to admit what's really killing people.

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– AlfredicEnglishRules [S] 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Pretty much.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Just out of curiosity: how are you so sure? Could you be wrong?

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– dagthegnome 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

I'm reasonably certain based on both the circumstantial evidence and the actual evidence that has begun to accumulate.

The most significant piece of circumstantial evidence is the fact that the spike in excess deaths across the developed world did not occur in 2020, when Covid was supposedly at its worst, but only really began in the latter half of 2021, after the mass vaccination drives.

Here is a small selection of the hard evidence:

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4206070

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2209371

https://archive.ph/fSXPN

https://expose-news.com/2022/07/09/canada-93percent-covid-deaths-vaccinated/

https://roundingtheearth.substack.com/p/estimating-vaccine-induced-mortality

https://archive.ph/aYxyK

https://web.archive.org/web/20211007022704/https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0146280621002267#

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I'm reasonably certain

OK, so you are not absolutely certain. That is a good sign at least.

based on both the circumstantial evidence and the actual evidence that has begun to accumulate.

To be clear, that vaccinations are a leading cause of death? And that they actually kill more than they save? Or they could do so in some select demographics, which is a claim that is less strange.

The most significant piece of circumstantial evidence is the fact that the spike in excess deaths across the developed world did not occur in 2020, when Covid was supposedly at its worst, but only really began in the latter half of 2021, after the mass vaccination drives.

Is it impossible that this was due to the delta wave, combined with more places opening up?

Now, let us suppose that this is correct. Would this mean that every single one of the respective vaccine cause so many deaths, even though the underlying technologies are completely different? Even if one were to accept that mRNA is a dangerous new technology (which is not that implausible), why would traditional vaccines cause the exact same number of deaths?

But if the traditional vaccines are not as lethal, why have China and Russia, with their own vaccines, not exposed Pfizer's lethality and dealt a body blow to Western credibility? It's the moon-landing argument: if it were fake, surely the USSR would have exposed it.

Here is a small selection of the hard evidence:

As skeptical as I am of the regime, I'm also skeptical of randomly gathered information by people who do not know the subject, to people who do not know the subject (me). For this to be covered up would require the complicity of too many people. I understand this sounds a little like the NPC argument "the experts say X, they must be right". But I think extraordinary claims do require extraordinary evidence.

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– ArtemisFoul 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Is it impossible that this was due to the delta wave, combined with more places opening up?

Yes, that is impossible. One, Delta was significantly less lethal than the original variant. Two, the original variant already took out a chunk of the people in endangered demographics (extremely old, extremely fat), and effectively inoculated much of the rest of the population (the 99.x% that didn't die). It makes no sense for a later, weaker mutation of a virus to cause a big spike in mortality when the older, more lethal variant didn't.

And more places opening up? In my country the worst restrictions were in place in 2021, 2020 was relatively calm compared to last year's lunacy.

But if the traditional vaccines are not as lethal, why have China and Russia, with their own vaccines, not exposed Pfizer's lethality and dealt a body blow to Western credibility? It's the moon-landing argument: if it were fake, surely the USSR would have exposed it.

Russia and China have their own problems, and even if they blew the whistle, noone would care. People in the west, highly-credentialed scientists, have been blowing the whistle like mad and they've just been quietly censored and ignored.

Besides, what's better for Russia and China: Dealing a blow to the West's already nonexistent credibility, or having western countries force Safe and Effective shots on their populations while crippling their economies with lockdowns? (Yes, China went back to lockdown lunacy in 2022, crippling their own economy as well, but in the process they're also crippling the global supply chain even harder than before, and China can handle angry citizens easier than the EU or USA.)

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– GeneralBoobs 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

There's still money in the slush fund, I see.

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